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Just wanna say I can't understand Hacker News' stance on politics: Someone posts Paul Graham's post talking about "woke" ideology and mods/admins do nothing ab

Just wanna say I can't understand Hacker News' stance on politics: Someone posts Paul Graham's post talking about "woke" ideology and mods/admins do nothing about it While this one stays flagged At least be consistent

defrost 2y ago
Just to be clear, there's one main mod (dang) and they don't flag submissions, that honour falls to regular users who've been here a year or three or more (whatever the time | point threshold is). Most of the users that can [flag] also have the option to [vouch]. If enough vouch the flag is reveresed (as far as I know).
- Philpax 2y ago
  You can't vouch for posts, only comments.
  - defrost 2y ago
    I have vouched for posts .. but it doesn't always appear as an option ... Addendum1: I haven't compiled a detailed cross referenced list of observations about HN .. but it's got a lot of little subtle quirks from custom coding .. I suspect there's a window for submission vouching that's only open to users with certain other privlege escalations, or perhaps a stochastic element throws that chance to a random few .. eg: I have no option to vouch for this flagged submission, but I have had that option on others. Addendum2: Jtsummers may well be right. There may also still be other odd little factors <shrug>.
  - Jtsummers 2y ago
    You can vouch for posts, but only once they're [dead]. [flagged] is not [dead] on its own, and so nothing can be done by users yet (other than maybe reaching out to the mod). If it acquires enough flags to become [dead], then those of us with enough karma could vouch for it. Note that the same thing is true for comments. Occasionally, but not often, you'll find a [flagged] comment that isn't [dead], you can't vouch for those either. Only once they become [dead] can they be vouched for.
- Tadpole9181 2y ago
  Dang has directly commented on this post now. He is upholding the flag, which makes him complicit.
  - defrost 2y ago
    > Dang has directly commented on this post now. Okay. He does comment most days. > He is upholding the flag, .. Is he? Like "actively" .. or just letting things work as they are designed and as HN users have made happen? > which makes him complicit. Does it? If so, is there a legal path by which we can punish him for this? Maybe you've invested a little to much of yourself in an online forum.
JeremyNT 2y ago
It's the users doing the flagging. Musk and PG are both heroes in the startup / tech / VC world. For better or worse, it's hardly surprising that this forum is very supportive of them.
- antifa 2y ago
  > heroes More like the Kardashians of the startup/tech/VC World. Fake gaming creds, claiming to work 80hrs/week while having 60hrs of tweets.
- thiht 2y ago
  It’s definitely surprising to me. I was a hardcore pro-Musk before he bought Twitter. But it didn’t take him long to show his nazi colors (NOT an exaggeration) after that (maybe even a bit before?). I quit Twitter as soon as he did and I’m honestly surprised more people didn’t no matter how they liked him before. Like, do you enjoy using a social network run by a wannabe neo-nazi?

defrost 2y ago

Just to be clear, there's one main mod (dang) and they don't flag submissions, that honour falls to regular users who've been here a year or three or more (whatever the time | point threshold is). Most of the users that can [flag] also have the option to [vouch]. If enough vouch the flag is reveresed (as far as I know).

Philpax 2y ago
You can't vouch for posts, only comments.
- defrost 2y ago
  I have vouched for posts .. but it doesn't always appear as an option ... Addendum1: I haven't compiled a detailed cross referenced list of observations about HN .. but it's got a lot of little subtle quirks from custom coding .. I suspect there's a window for submission vouching that's only open to users with certain other privlege escalations, or perhaps a stochastic element throws that chance to a random few .. eg: I have no option to vouch for this flagged submission, but I have had that option on others. Addendum2: Jtsummers may well be right. There may also still be other odd little factors <shrug>.
- Jtsummers 2y ago
  You can vouch for posts, but only once they're [dead]. [flagged] is not [dead] on its own, and so nothing can be done by users yet (other than maybe reaching out to the mod). If it acquires enough flags to become [dead], then those of us with enough karma could vouch for it. Note that the same thing is true for comments. Occasionally, but not often, you'll find a [flagged] comment that isn't [dead], you can't vouch for those either. Only once they become [dead] can they be vouched for.
Tadpole9181 2y ago
Dang has directly commented on this post now. He is upholding the flag, which makes him complicit.
- defrost 2y ago
  > Dang has directly commented on this post now. Okay. He does comment most days. > He is upholding the flag, .. Is he? Like "actively" .. or just letting things work as they are designed and as HN users have made happen? > which makes him complicit. Does it? If so, is there a legal path by which we can punish him for this? Maybe you've invested a little to much of yourself in an online forum.

JeremyNT 2y ago

It's the users doing the flagging. Musk and PG are both heroes in the startup / tech / VC world. For better or worse, it's hardly surprising that this forum is very supportive of them.

antifa 2y ago
> heroes More like the Kardashians of the startup/tech/VC World. Fake gaming creds, claiming to work 80hrs/week while having 60hrs of tweets.
thiht 2y ago
It’s definitely surprising to me. I was a hardcore pro-Musk before he bought Twitter. But it didn’t take him long to show his nazi colors (NOT an exaggeration) after that (maybe even a bit before?). I quit Twitter as soon as he did and I’m honestly surprised more people didn’t no matter how they liked him before. Like, do you enjoy using a social network run by a wannabe neo-nazi?