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Why is the comparison always Nazi Germany? By the way, the jury explicitly rejected the rape allegation. So you're just making stuff up from your high-horse:

Why is the comparison always Nazi Germany? By the way, the jury explicitly rejected the rape allegation. So you're just making stuff up from your high-horse: https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-carroll-trial-fe68259a4b98bb3947d42af9ec83d7db https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-carroll-trial-fe68259a...

gedpeck 2y ago
I didn’t compare anything to Nazi Germany. I gave Nazi Germany as an example of how what is socially acceptable can drastically change in a short period of time. I apologize. He was found liable for sexual abuse, battery and defamation. These distinctions are extremely important. He’s not quite as bad as I made him out to be. What about him calling his daughter a nice piece of ass? The other stuff?
- itsoktocry 2y ago
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  - gedpeck 2y ago
    I didn’t call anyone a Nazi. Trump is not a Nazi. Most of his supporters aren’t either. I did use Nazi Germany as an example of societal views changing to the extreme.
    - spencerflem 2y ago
      Though Elon did just do a Nazi salute live on stage ;)
metabagel 2y ago
The judge said that Trump was guilty of rape, as it is commonly defined. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-car... > “The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Kaplan wrote. He added: “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.” Kaplan said New York’s legal definition of “rape” is “far narrower” than the word is understood in “common modern parlance.” The former requires forcible, unconsented-to penetration with one’s penis. But he said that the conduct the jury effectively found Trump liable for — forced digital penetration — meets a more common definition of rape. He cited definitions offered by the American Psychological Association and the Justice Department, which in 2012 expanded its definition of rape to include penetration “with any body part or object.”
egypturnash 2y ago
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dralley 2y ago
The colloquial definition of rape includes using your fingers, which is what he did. The fact that the specific NY law defines digital violation as a separate offense from "rape" doesn't make using the term improper for the non-NY-lawyers among us.

gedpeck 2y ago

I didn’t compare anything to Nazi Germany. I gave Nazi Germany as an example of how what is socially acceptable can drastically change in a short period of time. I apologize. He was found liable for sexual abuse, battery and defamation. These distinctions are extremely important. He’s not quite as bad as I made him out to be. What about him calling his daughter a nice piece of ass? The other stuff?

itsoktocry 2y ago
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- gedpeck 2y ago
  I didn’t call anyone a Nazi. Trump is not a Nazi. Most of his supporters aren’t either. I did use Nazi Germany as an example of societal views changing to the extreme.
  - spencerflem 2y ago
    Though Elon did just do a Nazi salute live on stage ;)

metabagel 2y ago

The judge said that Trump was guilty of rape, as it is commonly defined. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-car... > “The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Kaplan wrote. He added: “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.” Kaplan said New York’s legal definition of “rape” is “far narrower” than the word is understood in “common modern parlance.” The former requires forcible, unconsented-to penetration with one’s penis. But he said that the conduct the jury effectively found Trump liable for — forced digital penetration — meets a more common definition of rape. He cited definitions offered by the American Psychological Association and the Justice Department, which in 2012 expanded its definition of rape to include penetration “with any body part or object.”

egypturnash 2y ago

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dralley 2y ago

The colloquial definition of rape includes using your fingers, which is what he did. The fact that the specific NY law defines digital violation as a separate offense from "rape" doesn't make using the term improper for the non-NY-lawyers among us.