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Ok, no capital letters as a writing affectation is immediately upsetting... but I'll let my anxiety about that subside and focus on the content. I get it, I re

by sgt101 2y ago

Ok, no capital letters as a writing affectation is immediately upsetting... but I'll let my anxiety about that subside and focus on the content. I get it, I really do. I find it a daily struggle. Last week I told my boss I couldn't travel this week. He was fine about it, there wasn't even a discussion. But I've worried about it ever since. Not because I want a raise or a promotion, but because I need this job and I worry that I won't get another good one if I lose it. I need it to cover my families needs, I need it so that I can live a good life post work. I need to think about post work because we all know that when your hair goes white and you struggle with the accessibility of the office you're not going to get another one. So, there is no compact that will create the feeling of safety and fulfillment that this article wishes for. Just money.

throwaway34443 2y ago
I think I've found my peace. I'm 24, planning to live my entire life without long term relationships, so I don't have to worry about responsibilities to others. I live in Europe so theoretically retirement is not a death sentence, but if it gets too difficult I can always kill myself. One advantage of this life is that it becomes quite easy to save money when you don't have pointless expenses. So far I am very happy and stress free.
- HL33tibCe7 2y ago
  Seek professional help
- accrual 2y ago
  It is peaceful and I'm finding myself in a similar place at a slightly older age. Responsibility to others can indeed be draining. But I'd encourage you to see beyond ending yourself as an alternative. There's always another way to go forwards and grow.
  - throwaway34443 2y ago
    Oh, certainly. I am not suicidal or depressed, but I simply do not see a point in living further if I had to work myself to exhaustion every day just to feed myself, or became severely ill. Having an escape button feels quite nice even if I'm not going to press it.
Swizec 2y ago
> So, there is no compact that will create the feeling of safety and fulfillment that this article wishes for. Just money. Money is the best freedom buyer. Don't trust anyone who says "Money doesn't buy happiness". That's rich-people propaganda to keep the rest of us dependent. As Lucy Liu said in a fantastic interview: Do everything in your power to accumulate fuck you money as early as possible. Because then you can say No. Even a few months of buffer is enough to buy lots of wellbeing. Having FIRE money is obviously even better.
- maiar 2y ago
  The issue is game-theoretic. There’s value in having money, absolutely, but most people end up having to chase it and never get any. If one person chases money, emancipation results for him. If everyone chases money, as most of us are forced to do, we end up miserable, and nobody wins except the people we should be removing from power as fast as possible. Money clearly matters a lot, though. Why? Because we live in an objectively evil society—an oligarchy that has no language but money.
  - getreal99 2y ago
    It's easy to write "just get more money" from a Palo Alto coffee shop making six figures and screwing off on HN all day in between "looks good" PR reviews. The rest of America is a little more angry than that.
  - Swizec 2y ago
    > The issue is game-theoretic. There’s value in having money, absolutely, but most people end up having to chase it and never get any We are on HN. The typical person here can achieve freedom for themselves and their family. And we should work to change the system also. Remember that someone with 2mil can easily FIRE in America and still be closer to the destitute than the billionaires. 2mil is pretty achievable to most people on HN and we should definitely encourage each other to get there. Vilifying small scale financial freedom is part of tall poppy syndrome and plays directly into the hands of wealthy oligarchs. The more people who think getting rich is bad, the better. We gotta always remind each other that a millionaire is closer to us normies than they are to the billionaires.
cab11150904 2y ago
Thank you for keeping me from even opening the article. No caps just sounds like someone whimpering in a corner.

by sgt101 2y ago

throwaway34443 2y ago

I think I've found my peace. I'm 24, planning to live my entire life without long term relationships, so I don't have to worry about responsibilities to others. I live in Europe so theoretically retirement is not a death sentence, but if it gets too difficult I can always kill myself. One advantage of this life is that it becomes quite easy to save money when you don't have pointless expenses. So far I am very happy and stress free.

HL33tibCe7 2y ago
Seek professional help
accrual 2y ago
It is peaceful and I'm finding myself in a similar place at a slightly older age. Responsibility to others can indeed be draining. But I'd encourage you to see beyond ending yourself as an alternative. There's always another way to go forwards and grow.
- throwaway34443 2y ago
  Oh, certainly. I am not suicidal or depressed, but I simply do not see a point in living further if I had to work myself to exhaustion every day just to feed myself, or became severely ill. Having an escape button feels quite nice even if I'm not going to press it.

Swizec 2y ago

> So, there is no compact that will create the feeling of safety and fulfillment that this article wishes for. Just money. Money is the best freedom buyer. Don't trust anyone who says "Money doesn't buy happiness". That's rich-people propaganda to keep the rest of us dependent. As Lucy Liu said in a fantastic interview: Do everything in your power to accumulate fuck you money as early as possible. Because then you can say No. Even a few months of buffer is enough to buy lots of wellbeing. Having FIRE money is obviously even better.

maiar 2y ago
The issue is game-theoretic. There’s value in having money, absolutely, but most people end up having to chase it and never get any. If one person chases money, emancipation results for him. If everyone chases money, as most of us are forced to do, we end up miserable, and nobody wins except the people we should be removing from power as fast as possible. Money clearly matters a lot, though. Why? Because we live in an objectively evil society—an oligarchy that has no language but money.
- getreal99 2y ago
  It's easy to write "just get more money" from a Palo Alto coffee shop making six figures and screwing off on HN all day in between "looks good" PR reviews. The rest of America is a little more angry than that.
- Swizec 2y ago
  > The issue is game-theoretic. There’s value in having money, absolutely, but most people end up having to chase it and never get any We are on HN. The typical person here can achieve freedom for themselves and their family. And we should work to change the system also. Remember that someone with 2mil can easily FIRE in America and still be closer to the destitute than the billionaires. 2mil is pretty achievable to most people on HN and we should definitely encourage each other to get there. Vilifying small scale financial freedom is part of tall poppy syndrome and plays directly into the hands of wealthy oligarchs. The more people who think getting rich is bad, the better. We gotta always remind each other that a millionaire is closer to us normies than they are to the billionaires.

cab11150904 2y ago

Thank you for keeping me from even opening the article. No caps just sounds like someone whimpering in a corner.