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Are you saying aliens are not subject to US jurisdiction while here? Like "sovereign citizens"? That's what it seems like you're saying.
by pockmarked19 2y ago
Are you saying aliens are not subject to US jurisdiction while here? Like "sovereign citizens"? That's what it seems like you're saying.
- proberts 2y agoDiplomats (not all foreign nationals) and their families who remain subject to the laws of their own country.
- pockmarked19 2y agoThanks, that's interesting to know! Although my comment was addressed to willmadden, and I think they just do not know what jurisdiction means.
- 77pt77 2y agoThose also have diplomatic immunity.
- tripletao 2y agoThe distinction in the executive order is between "a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident" and everyone else, not just citizen vs. noncitizen or lawful vs. unlawful. As drafted, the children of other lawful immigrants (H-1, J-1, O-1, L-1, etc.) would also not receive birthright citizenship. I've quoted the exact language for the father. The language for the mother is different but seems almost equivalent, excluding "lawful but temporary" status. I don't expect this to be upheld. Many tech workers will be affected if it somehow is, though. https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-meaning-and-value-of-american-citizenship/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/prot...