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"why go out of your way to remove them" in principle, it's fine to have them. But really, they are just a symbol of the fake performative substance free dei cu
by vasilipupkin 2y ago
"why go out of your way to remove them"
in principle, it's fine to have them. But really, they are just a symbol of the fake performative substance free dei culture. A reminder of it. Transgender employees should not be discriminated against, should have all the protections and respect like any other employees. But do we really need tampons in mens' bathrooms, really?
- Angostura 2y agoIf someone was born biological any male and is transitioning and still has periods, it seems useful, so why not?
- vasilipupkin 2y agohow many people like this did meta have who had this issue and also had no access to a tampon, so that having it in mens' bathroom specifically was really important? what if I am a forgetful guy and I have socks with holes in them and I forget to buy new socks. Should meta bathrooms stock those socks? at some point this just becomes a bit absurd, no?
- Angostura 2y agoDo Meta bathrooms currently stock socks? No, so its a silly analogy. As to the question of 'how many people did this serve?' I imagine a very small number. The shocking cost to Meta was a box of tampons that probably needed to be replaced every 10 years. They've gone out of their way to remove this cost at the expense of making that small number of employees feel comfortable.
- vasilipupkin 2y agoIt's not a silly analogy. It illustrates the absurdity of accommodating every kind of small group of employees.
- timeon 2y agoWhy does it bothers you?
- axiomo 2y ago> But do we really need tampons in mens' bathrooms, really? More to the point, do we really want men like the author in the women's bathrooms? Just because they desire to be women. We all need to take a step towards respecting women's boundaries by collectively telling these men: No.
- tokioyoyo 2y agoI’ve always been baffled about people who care about it. Just for a hot second sit down, and think how many times you’ve even talked to a trans person in your life. Like it’s such a tiny percentage of people that extreme majority of people will literally never have a conversation with one in their entire lives. But for whatever reason it occupies the minds of a good chunk of people throughout entire political spectrum. Even as a person who has a lot of gay friends, I’ve only known one trans woman. And as far as I know she’s kind and decent. I think you’re all outraged by invisible humans and arguments that never happen in the real world. Then it somehow occupies a good chunk of space in your brain.
- axiomo 2y agoIn my social and professional circles I personally know several individuals who have a trans identity. Getting to know them a bit was actually what shattered the gender identity illusion for me. If you consider the issue as a whole from a women's rights perspective, it should hopefully be less baffling.
- tokioyoyo 2y agoHonestly, I literally never think about it until it comes up on Twitter or HN and I get reminded of it. It's totally ok to not to have opinions about things that are very much not relevant and have zero consequences to yourself and people around you.
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- uwthrowaway 2y agoIt seems similarly performative to remove them, especially in the context of the election/Zuckerberg's signalling. Yes, adding tampons to men's bathrooms was largely performative and less substantial, but the same applies to removing them.
- vasilipupkin 2y agoAgree. Zuckerberg is a really unpleasant weathervane in my personal opinion.