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What country is this, if you mind sharing? I've never encountered any of these problems. I've received almost all my eSIMs as a QR code, and the ones that did o

by lxgr 2y ago

What country is this, if you mind sharing? I've never encountered any of these problems. I've received almost all my eSIMs as a QR code, and the ones that did offer app-based installation (which is convenient if it works, but ultimately not more than that) have a QR code for fallback. > only allowing so many changes per month That I have actually encountered. I've seen one (fortunately only when traveling) that actually charges a "SIM fee" for each new eSIM profile installed, and they don't allow reinstalls of my initial one... Charging for a new eSIM is dubious even if a profile is reinstallable, but it's less of an issue for me, as I'd only have to do that if I lose a phone, or it fails to a point where I can no longer remove the installed eSIMs so that I can redownload them on another one.

wkat4242 2y ago
This was in Holland, one of the MVNOs. They had a crappy app and it would generate a different QR code every time (so they were not reusable). And a lot of operators have restrictions on phones. Imported phones are often blocked (and also not given access to VoLTE). For me it is a big deal if it charges "sim fees". I do swap my sims very regularly. For testing, or to put one in my tablet when I travel. I just want to be fully free to do as I please. But luckily I only use prepay these days and none of the carriers here in Europe that do prepay offer eSIM anyway.
- akvadrako 2y ago
  Most eSIMs are not reusable; that's just standard, not a weird restriction.
  - lxgr 2y ago
    I’ve used many that are reusable, so I’ll continue considering it a common but weird restriction.
    - ddghhhhdaf 2y ago
      Which operators? From your other comments I would think Vodafone (CallYa?) Germany - any others? (I haven’t seen any other that ships reusable QR codes yet.)
  - wkat4242 2y ago
    Ok but then they just aren't usable like a normal SIM. And not a suitable replacement.
- pta2002 2y ago
  > none of the carriers here in Europe that do prepay offer eSIM anyway. Not true, e.g. in Portugal: https://www.nos.pt/movel/esim https://www.nos.pt/movel/esim (though you need to go to a store to pick-up the QR code, I think to avoid people from other countries using it?), https://www.meo.pt/servicos/movel/tarifarios-telemovel/e-sim https://www.meo.pt/servicos/movel/tarifarios-telemovel/e-sim same thing
sureIy 2y ago
Happens with Thai eSIM as well. They have great roaming deals so I like having its eSIM always installed, but if I change iPhone I have to visit a store Thailand. Fantastic. I ended up switching it for a physical SIM card.
- smoovb 2y ago
  If the eSIM is registered, you can also reissue a Thai eSIM online.
  - sureIy 2y ago
    Dtac? Maybe he was wrong, but the operator said I couldn't.
realityking 2y ago
> Charging for a new eSIM is dubious The prices charged are often too high but depending on the setup the provider is using they might actually pay a vendor a fee every time an eSIM profile is generated.

by lxgr 2y ago

wkat4242 2y ago

This was in Holland, one of the MVNOs. They had a crappy app and it would generate a different QR code every time (so they were not reusable). And a lot of operators have restrictions on phones. Imported phones are often blocked (and also not given access to VoLTE). For me it is a big deal if it charges "sim fees". I do swap my sims very regularly. For testing, or to put one in my tablet when I travel. I just want to be fully free to do as I please. But luckily I only use prepay these days and none of the carriers here in Europe that do prepay offer eSIM anyway.

akvadrako 2y ago
Most eSIMs are not reusable; that's just standard, not a weird restriction.
- lxgr 2y ago
  I’ve used many that are reusable, so I’ll continue considering it a common but weird restriction.
  - ddghhhhdaf 2y ago
    Which operators? From your other comments I would think Vodafone (CallYa?) Germany - any others? (I haven’t seen any other that ships reusable QR codes yet.)
- wkat4242 2y ago
  Ok but then they just aren't usable like a normal SIM. And not a suitable replacement.
pta2002 2y ago
> none of the carriers here in Europe that do prepay offer eSIM anyway. Not true, e.g. in Portugal: https://www.nos.pt/movel/esim https://www.nos.pt/movel/esim (though you need to go to a store to pick-up the QR code, I think to avoid people from other countries using it?), https://www.meo.pt/servicos/movel/tarifarios-telemovel/e-sim https://www.meo.pt/servicos/movel/tarifarios-telemovel/e-sim same thing

sureIy 2y ago

Happens with Thai eSIM as well. They have great roaming deals so I like having its eSIM always installed, but if I change iPhone I have to visit a store Thailand. Fantastic. I ended up switching it for a physical SIM card.

smoovb 2y ago
If the eSIM is registered, you can also reissue a Thai eSIM online.
- sureIy 2y ago
  Dtac? Maybe he was wrong, but the operator said I couldn't.

realityking 2y ago

> Charging for a new eSIM is dubious The prices charged are often too high but depending on the setup the provider is using they might actually pay a vendor a fee every time an eSIM profile is generated.