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One announce with eSIM is that you can’t move them freely, despite being advertised as equivalent. Depending on the provider it can get quite complicated (physi
by harha 2y ago
One announce with eSIM is that you can’t move them freely, despite being advertised as equivalent. Depending on the provider it can get quite complicated (physical visit in store, fees) to move to another device.
- londons_explore 2y agoCould one make an all-software sim card emulator which would enable this? Or does the esim spec have some kind of DRM to require you to use physical hardware with an embedded yet secret-to-you key?
- notpushkin 2y agoThere is SoftSIM, but I think it’s geared towards IOT applications: https://onomondo.com/product/softsim/ https://onomondo.com/product/softsim/
- gruez 2y ago>Or does the esim spec have some kind of DRM to require you to use physical hardware with an embedded yet secret-to-you key? Yes. Basically there's an accreditation process by the GSMA, and if your esim doesn't have a certificate chain leading back to GSMA, you won't be able to get your esim provisioned. https://media.ccc.de/v/camp2023-57190-demystifying_esim_technology https://media.ccc.de/v/camp2023-57190-demystifying_esim_tech...
- stavros 2y agoSorry, move them from what to what? Surely an eSIM isn't locked to the first phone I use it on?
- klausa 2y agoIt is. The QR codes that provision the eSIM are single-use. Most "real" carriers will of course let you migrate your eSIMs, with varying degrees of pain involved (my Japanese eSIM migrated automatically from iPhone to iPhone; the German one involved making a phone call); but ~all "travel plans" eSIMS will be single-use only.
- stavros 2y agoOof, that's not great...
- smileybarry 2y agoThe QR codes aren't really single-use, my carrier reuses the QR code and you can move devices by removing the eSIM from one and re-importing the QR code on the newer. (The QR code is invalid so long as the eSIM is provisioned on a device, not necessarily powered on)