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Well no, its not. Specifically in relation to Asylum Seekers contravening the EU Dublin Regulation and tearing up their passports on an intra-EU flight so they

Well no, its not. Specifically in relation to Asylum Seekers contravening the EU Dublin Regulation and tearing up their passports on an intra-EU flight so they can claim Asylum and the associated social welfare in Ireland rather than France or Germany due to our much higher rates. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Regulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Regulation Basically economic migrants - predominately young men from the middle east - disguising themselves as Refugees and taking social supports away from the families fleeing warzones.

mrtksn 2y ago
That is one subset of immigration crime that is rightly frown upon and can be completely avoided abolition of the country borders concept that was introduced in the last 100 years or less. Want to help people in need? Instead of confining them into areas and then impose restriction on those and give some of them some money, help those in need. Or don't help, but at least don't pretend that you are bringing justice to the world without addressing the core problems. In other words, this is actually welfare fraud that happens to have a travel component.
- Cumpiler69 2y ago
  >can be completely avoided abolition of the country borders Home break-ins can be avoided by abolishing locks on your front door and leaving them open for the public. You go first please.
  - mrtksn 2y ago
    I won’t reply to this strawman argument.
    - Cumpiler69 2y ago
      It's the same champaign socialist argumentation you are using, just that it's not affecting you, but when it does affect you, you have no argument. The question was simple, why do you support illegal immigration in a country's borders as being OK, but not crossing in the borders of your house? It's easy to be virtuous and generous with other people's money/resources.
      - mrtksn 2y ago
        I don't support illegal immigration, I say that people traveling and seeking better lives should not be illegal. I think we are done here since I don't feel spending time for positions I never claimed. I despise this type of argumentation, its a known fallacy and its useless. You can count yourself as won an arguments if you feel like that.
        rangestransform 2y ago
        It should be illegal based on the wishes of the people in the destination country alone, even if only to hoard the pie for themselves

mrtksn 2y ago

That is one subset of immigration crime that is rightly frown upon and can be completely avoided abolition of the country borders concept that was introduced in the last 100 years or less. Want to help people in need? Instead of confining them into areas and then impose restriction on those and give some of them some money, help those in need. Or don't help, but at least don't pretend that you are bringing justice to the world without addressing the core problems. In other words, this is actually welfare fraud that happens to have a travel component.

Cumpiler69 2y ago
>can be completely avoided abolition of the country borders Home break-ins can be avoided by abolishing locks on your front door and leaving them open for the public. You go first please.
- mrtksn 2y ago
  I won’t reply to this strawman argument.
  - Cumpiler69 2y ago
    It's the same champaign socialist argumentation you are using, just that it's not affecting you, but when it does affect you, you have no argument. The question was simple, why do you support illegal immigration in a country's borders as being OK, but not crossing in the borders of your house? It's easy to be virtuous and generous with other people's money/resources.
    - mrtksn 2y ago
      I don't support illegal immigration, I say that people traveling and seeking better lives should not be illegal. I think we are done here since I don't feel spending time for positions I never claimed. I despise this type of argumentation, its a known fallacy and its useless. You can count yourself as won an arguments if you feel like that.
      - rangestransform 2y ago
        It should be illegal based on the wishes of the people in the destination country alone, even if only to hoard the pie for themselves