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This gaslighting is getting a bit ridiculous. The oppression did not start in the wake of Southport, it has been in place for years. But I'm going to talk about

This gaslighting is getting a bit ridiculous. The oppression did not start in the wake of Southport, it has been in place for years. But I'm going to talk about Southport first. People were arrested for pointing out that the Southport murderer was a Muslim terrorist. Well guess what, he was: https://news.sky.com/story/southport-stabbings-suspect-faces-separate-terror-charge-after-ricin-and-al-qaeda-manual-found-at-home-13243980 https://news.sky.com/story/southport-stabbings-suspect-faces... The media said it was all disinformation and put forth many straw man claims to smear people who are fed up with their government covering for the crimes for immigrants. >Conspiracy to commit arson has been one of the most serious offences in English law for centuries, and that's even before you add the murder part to it. I'm not defending conspiracy to commit arson. It is a fact that people have been jailed for far less serious things. I heard some reports that people were jailed for recording the riots or even posting about the existence of the riots. Nevermind arson, Britain jails people for flame wars online: https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2017/10/14/british-police-arrest-at-least-3395-people-for-offensive-online-comments-one-year/ https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2017/10/14/british-police-a... And that is OLD, and nothing has changed. I hear regular reports of absurd arrests coming out of the UK. As the article says, "section 127 of the Communications Act 2003, [...] makes it illegal to intentionally “cause annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety to another”" and that can be and regularly is used to punch down on people expressing simple grievances. It is entirely subjective what causes "annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety" or is intended to do so. Our mere existence probably causes annoyance and inconvenience to some people. Got a problem with immigrants who don't respect your culture and disproportionately commit all the crimes? Well, it is going to cause some brown people to be anxious if you talk about it, so off to the slammer you go. That is truly how it goes, unless you're in a good position to fend off political attacks.

switch007 2y ago
> This gaslighting is getting a bit ridiculous Totally agree They always take the extreme part of your posts, find a minor counter claim, then imply we have total free speech
youngtaff 2y ago
He wasn't a Muslim he was brought up a Christian! The rumours were he was an asylum seeker who came over on a boat But as you end up quoting Breitbart what hope is there
- wakawaka28 2y ago
  Just because someone was "brought up as a Christian" doesn't mean they are one. And he WAS a terrorist or wannabe terrorist, as evidenced by everything said in that article. You're over here whining about Breitbart as your neighbors are being jailed for merely talking about these issues in a way that displeases your overlords.
  - youngtaff 2y ago
    Just because he was a wannabe terrorist doesn't make him a Muslim which what you claimed The people who were jailed were generally jailed for rioting and incitement to riot
    - wakawaka28 2y ago
      He was at least Muslim-adjacent, I think we can agree. Does it matter? Immigrant with ties to Al Qaida plots terror attack and actually murders people, comment section screaming "Ackshually he was not proven to be a Muslim" for real... >The people who were jailed were generally jailed for rioting and incitement to riot And I'm sure that given that officials gave many of them a year in prison, just a week after arrest, and after letting real criminals out to make room in the prisons, and after promising to make examples of them, means justice was served. Give me a break. Obviously the authorities can claim that anything calmly painting immigrants or even known criminals in a bad light is inciting a riot. It means nothing when laws are as screwed up as they are in the UK.
      - youngtaff 2y ago
        The people released were nearing the release point of the sentence and many would have been released due to prison overcrowding anyway People trying to burn down hotels with migrants in or wanting to attack Mosques, and those encouraging are real criminals too you know And he wasn't an immigrant, he was born in Cardiff! Rather than casting vague assertions about the role of the authorities you can go read why people were jailed as it's public record

switch007 2y ago

> This gaslighting is getting a bit ridiculous Totally agree They always take the extreme part of your posts, find a minor counter claim, then imply we have total free speech

youngtaff 2y ago

He wasn't a Muslim he was brought up a Christian! The rumours were he was an asylum seeker who came over on a boat But as you end up quoting Breitbart what hope is there

wakawaka28 2y ago
Just because someone was "brought up as a Christian" doesn't mean they are one. And he WAS a terrorist or wannabe terrorist, as evidenced by everything said in that article. You're over here whining about Breitbart as your neighbors are being jailed for merely talking about these issues in a way that displeases your overlords.
- youngtaff 2y ago
  Just because he was a wannabe terrorist doesn't make him a Muslim which what you claimed The people who were jailed were generally jailed for rioting and incitement to riot
  - wakawaka28 2y ago
    He was at least Muslim-adjacent, I think we can agree. Does it matter? Immigrant with ties to Al Qaida plots terror attack and actually murders people, comment section screaming "Ackshually he was not proven to be a Muslim" for real... >The people who were jailed were generally jailed for rioting and incitement to riot And I'm sure that given that officials gave many of them a year in prison, just a week after arrest, and after letting real criminals out to make room in the prisons, and after promising to make examples of them, means justice was served. Give me a break. Obviously the authorities can claim that anything calmly painting immigrants or even known criminals in a bad light is inciting a riot. It means nothing when laws are as screwed up as they are in the UK.
    - youngtaff 2y ago
      The people released were nearing the release point of the sentence and many would have been released due to prison overcrowding anyway People trying to burn down hotels with migrants in or wanting to attack Mosques, and those encouraging are real criminals too you know And he wasn't an immigrant, he was born in Cardiff! Rather than casting vague assertions about the role of the authorities you can go read why people were jailed as it's public record