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Okay, fine, let's play this game. What did Trump do to get TikTok back online?

moralestapia 2y ago
No idea and we might never know, but, do you think ByteDance would just lie about it?
coliveira 2y ago
It is very clear that it is Trump doing the negotiations around TikTok. The current administration is at this point powerless.
Maxatar 2y ago
He agreed to extend to TikTok an executive order that grants it a 90 day extension, as the law explicitly allows the President to do.
- palata 2y ago
  > as the law explicitly allows the President to do. I think this is debated, which is why Apple and Google may not bring back TikTok to the stores... at least that's what I read.
- nozzlegear 2y ago
  Doesn't the law explicitly require TikTok to have a convincing deal in place, and to be able to show proof of that to Congress, before such an extension can be granted? At 17:05 in this video (and I believe discussed once elsewhere but I can't find it/don't want to rewatch it): https://youtu.be/pZkoV5UnPvw https://youtu.be/pZkoV5UnPvw
Karrot_Kream 2y ago
Trump agreed to use a provision in the bill to offer a one-time 90 day extension on enforcement: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/7521/text#HF58A3513596C4ECA9863FB2565FDF872 https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/7521...
- GeneralMayhem 2y ago
  Yeah... there's no such provision. The only mentions of the president in that bill are: 1. In the definition of a "covered company". The bill itself already saus that TikTok is covered; this is only a provision to add other companies to the list. 2. In determining what qualifies as "divestiture" to have the ban lifted. That's described as happening when - > the President determines, through an interagency process... "TikTok wrote me a big check and said nice things about me" isn't an interagency process. Moreover, just in case we've forgotten, *Donald Trump is not currently the president.* He has literally zero power until tomorrow afternoon. He can't grant pardons, he can't lift law enforcement decisions, and he can't write executive orders. The promise of an executive order, even if such an order would be lawful tomorrow (which I can't understand how it would be), is not a legal document that can make something legal today.
  - Karrot_Kream 2y ago
    Since you ignored the passage I linked, let me qute it for you and the surrounding context if it helps you learn to read: (a) Right of action.—A petition for review challenging this Act or any action, finding, or determination under this Act may be filed only in the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. (b) Exclusive jurisdiction.—The United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit shall have exclusive jurisdiction over any challenge to this Act or any action, finding, or determination under this Act. (c) Statute of limitations.—A challenge may only be brought— (1) in the case of a challenge to this Act, not later than 165 days after the date of the enactment of this Act; and (2) in the case of a challenge to any action, finding, or determination under this Act, not later than 90 days after the date of such action, finding, or determination. ^ That is where the 90 day stipulation came from. === > Moreover, just in case we've forgotten, *Donald Trump is not currently the president. Right okay, what does one do with that information? It's common practice for Presidents to collaborate with their successors during the handoff period. Both the Biden and the incoming Trump administrations collaborated on the Gaza ceasefire, as way to help gradually transition power.
  - flanked-evergl 2y ago
    Bro is upset about Trump using a clause in a law, but has no problem with Biden and Kahmahlah declaring that something is part of the constitution based on absolutely nothing. Bro … after what Biden and Kahmahlah did, there is no valid criticism that any Democrat can have of Trump. Anything short of abolishing the constitution, as Biden and Kahmahlah tried, is less bad than what Biden and Kahmahlah did.
throwawayq3423 2y ago
I don't know but TikTok itself said it was because of him.

No idea and we might never know, but, do you think ByteDance would just lie about it?

It is very clear that it is Trump doing the negotiations around TikTok. The current administration is at this point powerless.

Maxatar 2y ago

He agreed to extend to TikTok an executive order that grants it a 90 day extension, as the law explicitly allows the President to do.

palata 2y ago
> as the law explicitly allows the President to do. I think this is debated, which is why Apple and Google may not bring back TikTok to the stores... at least that's what I read.
nozzlegear 2y ago
Doesn't the law explicitly require TikTok to have a convincing deal in place, and to be able to show proof of that to Congress, before such an extension can be granted? At 17:05 in this video (and I believe discussed once elsewhere but I can't find it/don't want to rewatch it): https://youtu.be/pZkoV5UnPvw https://youtu.be/pZkoV5UnPvw

Karrot_Kream 2y ago

Trump agreed to use a provision in the bill to offer a one-time 90 day extension on enforcement: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/7521/text#HF58A3513596C4ECA9863FB2565FDF872 https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/7521...

GeneralMayhem 2y ago
Yeah... there's no such provision. The only mentions of the president in that bill are: 1. In the definition of a "covered company". The bill itself already saus that TikTok is covered; this is only a provision to add other companies to the list. 2. In determining what qualifies as "divestiture" to have the ban lifted. That's described as happening when - > the President determines, through an interagency process... "TikTok wrote me a big check and said nice things about me" isn't an interagency process. Moreover, just in case we've forgotten, *Donald Trump is not currently the president.* He has literally zero power until tomorrow afternoon. He can't grant pardons, he can't lift law enforcement decisions, and he can't write executive orders. The promise of an executive order, even if such an order would be lawful tomorrow (which I can't understand how it would be), is not a legal document that can make something legal today.
- Karrot_Kream 2y ago
  Since you ignored the passage I linked, let me qute it for you and the surrounding context if it helps you learn to read: (a) Right of action.—A petition for review challenging this Act or any action, finding, or determination under this Act may be filed only in the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. (b) Exclusive jurisdiction.—The United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit shall have exclusive jurisdiction over any challenge to this Act or any action, finding, or determination under this Act. (c) Statute of limitations.—A challenge may only be brought— (1) in the case of a challenge to this Act, not later than 165 days after the date of the enactment of this Act; and (2) in the case of a challenge to any action, finding, or determination under this Act, not later than 90 days after the date of such action, finding, or determination. ^ That is where the 90 day stipulation came from. === > Moreover, just in case we've forgotten, *Donald Trump is not currently the president. Right okay, what does one do with that information? It's common practice for Presidents to collaborate with their successors during the handoff period. Both the Biden and the incoming Trump administrations collaborated on the Gaza ceasefire, as way to help gradually transition power.
- flanked-evergl 2y ago
  Bro is upset about Trump using a clause in a law, but has no problem with Biden and Kahmahlah declaring that something is part of the constitution based on absolutely nothing. Bro … after what Biden and Kahmahlah did, there is no valid criticism that any Democrat can have of Trump. Anything short of abolishing the constitution, as Biden and Kahmahlah tried, is less bad than what Biden and Kahmahlah did.

throwawayq3423 2y ago

I don't know but TikTok itself said it was because of him.