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It's funny how the only time there's something bipartisan is when it's to do Israel's bidding.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> the only time there's something bipartisan is when it's to do Israel's bidding The gay marriage bill was at Israel’s bidding? I worked on the TikTok bill. I really don’t care about Israel. While it’s tempting to see everything through the lens of your pet issue, it’s myopic to believe everything is motivated by a single cause, particularly a foreign-policy line.
- simonw 2y ago
  Since you worked on the bill, can you clarify if the driving force behind it was national security concerns which have not been revealed to the public?
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > if the driving force behind it was national security concerns which have not been revealed to the public? No. It was national security risks that have been amply disclosed. The Cuban Missile Crisis was still a crisis even if the Soviets didn’t launch.
    - saagarjha 2y ago
      What are the possible capabilities here?
      - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
        See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42738464 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42738464 This has been publicly litigated well.
        saagarjha 2y ago
        Right, but what's the actual demonstration of this? I keep hearing "TikTok can do bad thing" but it's not shown to actually happen and we don't seem interested in making them not do that.
- arandomusername 2y ago
  https://theintercept.com/2025/01/09/tiktok-ban-israel-palestine-republicans/ https://theintercept.com/2025/01/09/tiktok-ban-israel-palest... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7xTxAilSF0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7xTxAilSF0 Tiktok ban bill was due to it being more pro palestinian. It's no coincidence that most congress members get funded by Israeli lobbyist group.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    I worked on this bill, and believe I flipped two Senate votes for it. I really couldn’t care less about Palestine.
    - arandomusername 2y ago
      We all know you don't care about Palestine, you care about Israel.
      - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
        > We all know you don't care about Palestine, you care about Israel Not sure who "we" are, but they're wrong. It's not a war I have strong views nor knowledge about. I've never visited either place and while I respect people who have strong views on both sides of the debate, my pet war over the last few years has been Ukraine. (Though even there I'm aware enough not to paint everything through the lens of Russian meddling.)
    - segasaturn 2y ago
      Are you a lobbyist for Meta or something?
      - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
        > Are you a lobbyist for Meta or something? Nope, just worked on it as a private citizen. (Don't have an account with any Meta service.) In an ideal world, we'd regulate social media. I've tried and failed advocating for privacy legislation--the people who are passionate about privacy in America, unofortunately, also tend towards political nihilism, which makes the cause a political nonstarter. I'm also concerned about Chinese influence over American society, and care about Taiwan's security, so TikTok sort of aligned between my views on privacy, teen mental health and national security.

> the only time there's something bipartisan is when it's to do Israel's bidding The gay marriage bill was at Israel’s bidding? I worked on the TikTok bill. I really don’t care about Israel. While it’s tempting to see everything through the lens of your pet issue, it’s myopic to believe everything is motivated by a single cause, particularly a foreign-policy line.

simonw 2y ago
Since you worked on the bill, can you clarify if the driving force behind it was national security concerns which have not been revealed to the public?
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > if the driving force behind it was national security concerns which have not been revealed to the public? No. It was national security risks that have been amply disclosed. The Cuban Missile Crisis was still a crisis even if the Soviets didn’t launch.
  - saagarjha 2y ago
    What are the possible capabilities here?
    - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42738464 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42738464 This has been publicly litigated well.
      - saagarjha 2y ago
        Right, but what's the actual demonstration of this? I keep hearing "TikTok can do bad thing" but it's not shown to actually happen and we don't seem interested in making them not do that.
arandomusername 2y ago
https://theintercept.com/2025/01/09/tiktok-ban-israel-palestine-republicans/ https://theintercept.com/2025/01/09/tiktok-ban-israel-palest... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7xTxAilSF0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7xTxAilSF0 Tiktok ban bill was due to it being more pro palestinian. It's no coincidence that most congress members get funded by Israeli lobbyist group.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  I worked on this bill, and believe I flipped two Senate votes for it. I really couldn’t care less about Palestine.
  - arandomusername 2y ago
    We all know you don't care about Palestine, you care about Israel.
    - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      > We all know you don't care about Palestine, you care about Israel Not sure who "we" are, but they're wrong. It's not a war I have strong views nor knowledge about. I've never visited either place and while I respect people who have strong views on both sides of the debate, my pet war over the last few years has been Ukraine. (Though even there I'm aware enough not to paint everything through the lens of Russian meddling.)
  - segasaturn 2y ago
    Are you a lobbyist for Meta or something?
    - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      > Are you a lobbyist for Meta or something? Nope, just worked on it as a private citizen. (Don't have an account with any Meta service.) In an ideal world, we'd regulate social media. I've tried and failed advocating for privacy legislation--the people who are passionate about privacy in America, unofortunately, also tend towards political nihilism, which makes the cause a political nonstarter. I'm also concerned about Chinese influence over American society, and care about Taiwan's security, so TikTok sort of aligned between my views on privacy, teen mental health and national security.