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Thousands of people do it, so millions of people can? You somehow distilled 100+ steps into 2 sentences like they are fundamentally understood by the masses who

Thousands of people do it, so millions of people can? You somehow distilled 100+ steps into 2 sentences like they are fundamentally understood by the masses who struggle with the idea of file system. You have fallen victim to the exact hacker mentality OP stated.

satvikpendem 2y ago
You're right, it's millions of people who use Ghost, per their npm download statistics, not thousands. I read what OP said but I am not going to spend time copy pasting what the Ghost.org instructions say onto an HN comment when, yes, millions of people can and do already read and follow the instructions provided there. If one can't do what millions already do, follow a simple step by step process that is clearly laid out, then I'm sorry but they honestly don't deserve to have a blog.
- carlosjobim 2y ago
  They claim one hundred million installs. If you believe that one hundred million real people are self hosting Ghost and blogging away, then I don't know what to say. This is again "if you don't know how to bore out a cylinder you don't deserve to drive". This is not a simple process for normal people: https://ghost.org/docs/install/ubuntu/ https://ghost.org/docs/install/ubuntu/
  - satvikpendem 2y ago
    It can be >1% of that figure and still be at "millions of self-hosted installs." "Normal people" should not be self hosting in the first place, not sure why you got the impression that they should be. I should amend my previous comment though, I meant that for normal people, they should be able to follow the hosted Ghost instructions and if they can't do that then they don't deserve to have a blog, not that they should set up self hosting themselves, as that's not feasible for most non-technical people.
    - carlosjobim 2y ago
      > "Normal people" should not be self hosting in the first place, not sure why you got the impression that they should be. That's exactly my point, so I agree completely with what you say. The article as well as a lot of people on HN insist that normal people should self host their stuff instead of using social media and proprietary, and I say that it's really not possible or desirable for them.
- nickthegreek 2y ago
  I’d argue that they deserve to have a blog, but they should not self host. Still, initially setting up blog software is just one small step of securing, backing up and maintaining a public accessible system that in no way the majority are equipped to handle.
  - satvikpendem 2y ago
    Yes, but that does not seem to fit OP's contradictory stipulations [0]. Apparently self-hosting means that a platform is proprietary and thus discounted as a valid answer from their initial question. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42758104#42765003 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42758104#42765003

satvikpendem 2y ago

You're right, it's millions of people who use Ghost, per their npm download statistics, not thousands. I read what OP said but I am not going to spend time copy pasting what the Ghost.org instructions say onto an HN comment when, yes, millions of people can and do already read and follow the instructions provided there. If one can't do what millions already do, follow a simple step by step process that is clearly laid out, then I'm sorry but they honestly don't deserve to have a blog.

carlosjobim 2y ago
They claim one hundred million installs. If you believe that one hundred million real people are self hosting Ghost and blogging away, then I don't know what to say. This is again "if you don't know how to bore out a cylinder you don't deserve to drive". This is not a simple process for normal people: https://ghost.org/docs/install/ubuntu/ https://ghost.org/docs/install/ubuntu/
- satvikpendem 2y ago
  It can be >1% of that figure and still be at "millions of self-hosted installs." "Normal people" should not be self hosting in the first place, not sure why you got the impression that they should be. I should amend my previous comment though, I meant that for normal people, they should be able to follow the hosted Ghost instructions and if they can't do that then they don't deserve to have a blog, not that they should set up self hosting themselves, as that's not feasible for most non-technical people.
  - carlosjobim 2y ago
    > "Normal people" should not be self hosting in the first place, not sure why you got the impression that they should be. That's exactly my point, so I agree completely with what you say. The article as well as a lot of people on HN insist that normal people should self host their stuff instead of using social media and proprietary, and I say that it's really not possible or desirable for them.
nickthegreek 2y ago
I’d argue that they deserve to have a blog, but they should not self host. Still, initially setting up blog software is just one small step of securing, backing up and maintaining a public accessible system that in no way the majority are equipped to handle.
- satvikpendem 2y ago
  Yes, but that does not seem to fit OP's contradictory stipulations [0]. Apparently self-hosting means that a platform is proprietary and thus discounted as a valid answer from their initial question. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42758104#42765003 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42758104#42765003