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There is always someone in the thread who wants to blame the Jews. Two in this one.

ok123456 2y ago
There are many Jews who disagree with what AIPAC does in the country and what Israel does. Would we permit a lobby for China to do the same thing?
- starik36 2y ago
  Because AIPAC is an American organization made up of American citizens funded by American citizens.
GordonS 2y ago
And there is always a Hasbara drone who lies, deflects, and conflates Israel with Jewry so they can insinuate that any criticism of Israel == antisemitism.
- bitcurious 2y ago
  AIPAC is an organization made up of American Jews, not Israelis.
  - blackoil 2y ago
    "American Israel Public Affairs Committee""
  - GordonS 2y ago
    That's only part of the truth though. AIPAC is funded by Israel, and by it's own description AIPAC is an organisation made up of pro-Israel zionists. Oh, and the "I" in AIPAC stands for "Israel".
    - starik36 2y ago
      Lies once again. AIPAC is funded by American Jews. Nice try hiding your hatred.
      - talldayo 2y ago
        > Lies once again. Everything they said was true and you did not even attempt to explain why or how they're wrong. > AIPAC is funded by American Jews. No shit. Name a single larger demographic with a protracted interest in defending Israel, I'll wait. > Nice try hiding your hatred. There are two governments on Earth that deny Israel's violation of international law. They are Israel and the United States. It is not hatred to oppose Zionism, it's global consensus.
        starik36 2y ago
        > It is not hatred to oppose Zionism, it's global consensus. I don't care what your global consensus is. Jews are entitled to their homeland, just like any other nationality, like Belguim or Paraguay. To say otherwise is hatred. > AIPAC is funded by American Jews. >> No shit. Name a single larger demographic with a protracted interest in defending Israel Exactly - no shit. Jews do have a protracted interest in defending Israel - so that there is a place to go where they can be protected from genocidal maniacs who are creating this "global consensus" with intent of wiping them out.
        talldayo 2y ago
        > I don't care what your global consensus is. Jews are entitled to their homeland Evidently. You seem rather incensed that I even mentioned the hundreds of nations that oppose Israel's existence on non-religious grounds. The nations that observe international law, the eminence of criminal justice, the treatment of minorities, the protection of journalists, the (repeated) violation of Syria's border and the displacement of Israel's remaining native population. Simply put, I agree that Israel's natives are entitled to their homeland. It's unfortunate for the Jews then that they are not the Arabs. > so that there is a place to go where they can be protected from genocidal maniacs who are creating this "global consensus" with intent of wiping them out. The Zionists very helpfully showed us that it doesn't take a global (or even religious) consensus to incite genocide: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cast_Thy_Bread https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cast_Thy_Bread For the courtesy of the Jewish people I do not conflate Zionism with Judaism. Anyone examining Israel's history can very easily distinguish for themselves the extremists and the oppressed.
seanvelasco 2y ago
this is the sane comment here. the parent comment this comment replies to is the insane one. and yet this one is downvoted and the other is not a reply on this comment even accuse the commenter of being Hasbara HN is the world-upside down. a lot of people here really should just stick to tech
- ok123456 2y ago
  Let me guess, "it's too complicated."
  - starik36 2y ago
    No. It’s actually pretty simple. You are making the inference.

There are many Jews who disagree with what AIPAC does in the country and what Israel does. Would we permit a lobby for China to do the same thing?

starik36 2y ago
Because AIPAC is an American organization made up of American citizens funded by American citizens.

GordonS 2y ago

And there is always a Hasbara drone who lies, deflects, and conflates Israel with Jewry so they can insinuate that any criticism of Israel == antisemitism.

bitcurious 2y ago
AIPAC is an organization made up of American Jews, not Israelis.
- blackoil 2y ago
  "American Israel Public Affairs Committee""
- GordonS 2y ago
  That's only part of the truth though. AIPAC is funded by Israel, and by it's own description AIPAC is an organisation made up of pro-Israel zionists. Oh, and the "I" in AIPAC stands for "Israel".
  - starik36 2y ago
    Lies once again. AIPAC is funded by American Jews. Nice try hiding your hatred.
    - talldayo 2y ago
      > Lies once again. Everything they said was true and you did not even attempt to explain why or how they're wrong. > AIPAC is funded by American Jews. No shit. Name a single larger demographic with a protracted interest in defending Israel, I'll wait. > Nice try hiding your hatred. There are two governments on Earth that deny Israel's violation of international law. They are Israel and the United States. It is not hatred to oppose Zionism, it's global consensus.
      - starik36 2y ago
        > It is not hatred to oppose Zionism, it's global consensus. I don't care what your global consensus is. Jews are entitled to their homeland, just like any other nationality, like Belguim or Paraguay. To say otherwise is hatred. > AIPAC is funded by American Jews. >> No shit. Name a single larger demographic with a protracted interest in defending Israel Exactly - no shit. Jews do have a protracted interest in defending Israel - so that there is a place to go where they can be protected from genocidal maniacs who are creating this "global consensus" with intent of wiping them out.
        talldayo 2y ago
        > I don't care what your global consensus is. Jews are entitled to their homeland Evidently. You seem rather incensed that I even mentioned the hundreds of nations that oppose Israel's existence on non-religious grounds. The nations that observe international law, the eminence of criminal justice, the treatment of minorities, the protection of journalists, the (repeated) violation of Syria's border and the displacement of Israel's remaining native population. Simply put, I agree that Israel's natives are entitled to their homeland. It's unfortunate for the Jews then that they are not the Arabs. > so that there is a place to go where they can be protected from genocidal maniacs who are creating this "global consensus" with intent of wiping them out. The Zionists very helpfully showed us that it doesn't take a global (or even religious) consensus to incite genocide: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cast_Thy_Bread https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cast_Thy_Bread For the courtesy of the Jewish people I do not conflate Zionism with Judaism. Anyone examining Israel's history can very easily distinguish for themselves the extremists and the oppressed.

seanvelasco 2y ago

this is the sane comment here. the parent comment this comment replies to is the insane one. and yet this one is downvoted and the other is not a reply on this comment even accuse the commenter of being Hasbara HN is the world-upside down. a lot of people here really should just stick to tech

ok123456 2y ago
Let me guess, "it's too complicated."
- starik36 2y ago
  No. It’s actually pretty simple. You are making the inference.