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User identities are not user data. Your identity is only lost if you used an identity provider that shut down. Your data is separately stored. You can, in effec

User identities are not user data. Your identity is only lost if you used an identity provider that shut down. Your data is separately stored. You can, in effect, own your bluesky identity forever, even if every BS server shuts down, so long as DNS still exists and functions.

gchamonlive 2y ago
Didn't know that, thanks for the info!
CuriousCosmic 2y ago
Strictly speaking: 1. This is true for did:web but less true for did:plc identities. 2. For did:plc identities to survive a full "bluesky PBC" death, you'd need to to transfer master authority for your PLC identity to a set of keys you control. If you don't then ultimately bluesky PBC would still have final authority over your identity. But if you transfer control to your own keys ahead of time then you can use those keys to make changes long after bluesky PBC's death.
- BodyCulture 2y ago
  Wound be great if you posted the URL to the relevant documentation for this… I guess there must be some docs about these delicate details? Thank you very much!
  - CuriousCosmic 2y ago
    This is the main repo for did:plc. The important section of the README is "Key Rotation and Account Recovery": https://github.com/did-method-plc/did-method-plc https://github.com/did-method-plc/did-method-plc This is a tool that allows you to create new recovery keys: https://github.com/renahlee/manual https://github.com/renahlee/manual Post about said tool: https://bsky.app/profile/renahlee.com/post/3lcbnab6rl22h https://bsky.app/profile/renahlee.com/post/3lcbnab6rl22h An article on how to do this manually: https://whtwnd.com/fei.chicory.blue/entries/How%20to%20get%20a%20recovery%20key https://whtwnd.com/fei.chicory.blue/entries/How%20to%20get%2... It's generally pretty sparse docs because everything is fairly "beta" still and because it is cryptography if you fuck it up you permanently lose control over your account forever. This is one of the reasons they don't advertise non-custodial recovery keys super aggressively. And the protocol that is used for maintaining a ledger of key changes isn't exactly ideal or to my knowledge final but rather is in a "it's good enough until we douse the other fires" state.
    - BodyCulture 2y ago
      Thank you very much!

gchamonlive 2y ago

Didn't know that, thanks for the info!

CuriousCosmic 2y ago

Strictly speaking: 1. This is true for did:web but less true for did:plc identities. 2. For did:plc identities to survive a full "bluesky PBC" death, you'd need to to transfer master authority for your PLC identity to a set of keys you control. If you don't then ultimately bluesky PBC would still have final authority over your identity. But if you transfer control to your own keys ahead of time then you can use those keys to make changes long after bluesky PBC's death.

BodyCulture 2y ago
Wound be great if you posted the URL to the relevant documentation for this… I guess there must be some docs about these delicate details? Thank you very much!
- CuriousCosmic 2y ago
  This is the main repo for did:plc. The important section of the README is "Key Rotation and Account Recovery": https://github.com/did-method-plc/did-method-plc https://github.com/did-method-plc/did-method-plc This is a tool that allows you to create new recovery keys: https://github.com/renahlee/manual https://github.com/renahlee/manual Post about said tool: https://bsky.app/profile/renahlee.com/post/3lcbnab6rl22h https://bsky.app/profile/renahlee.com/post/3lcbnab6rl22h An article on how to do this manually: https://whtwnd.com/fei.chicory.blue/entries/How%20to%20get%20a%20recovery%20key https://whtwnd.com/fei.chicory.blue/entries/How%20to%20get%2... It's generally pretty sparse docs because everything is fairly "beta" still and because it is cryptography if you fuck it up you permanently lose control over your account forever. This is one of the reasons they don't advertise non-custodial recovery keys super aggressively. And the protocol that is used for maintaining a ledger of key changes isn't exactly ideal or to my knowledge final but rather is in a "it's good enough until we douse the other fires" state.
  - BodyCulture 2y ago
    Thank you very much!