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> Young people now give up the app they use that actually makes them happy Citation needed - social media seems to be very bad for young people's health, if an

> Young people now give up the app they use that actually makes them happy Citation needed - social media seems to be very bad for young people's health, if anything.

michaelt 2y ago
If the US was doing this for teen mental health, they'd have banned Twitter and Facebook too. This isn't about teen mental health.
- jader201 2y ago
  I don’t think the parent comment was arguing the motive for the ban. They’re just saying they’re not convinced TikTok causes the overall happiness the GP comment claims. I think it’s hard to argue that any social media has a net positive effect on mental health of any age, let alone the younger generations.
  - SecretDreams 2y ago
    My own claim is more like a dopamine high. Like smoking. Both bad things in the long run, but makes them happu in the moment. Video games probably up there too in their current manifestation. Anywho, main point is more about giving this already vulnerable demographic more tools to succeed. Especially if, from their perspective, all we keep doing is making their lives worse.
fakedang 2y ago
That's like telling a drug addict that it's bad for his/her health. Sure you're staying facts, but they're not going to take it up. Might as well preach to the wind. From a young one's perspective, it's natural they're going to take it as one more incursion into their lives, else Red Note, an app made for a largely Chinese audience by an unrelated company would not have seen so much uptake over the past few days.
- ipython 2y ago
  Do we have actual numbers on signups for RedNote though? I feel that if I’ve learned anything in the past ten years of social media, a lot of noise is made by a very small percentage of users (not necessarily even people).
JavierFlores09 2y ago
> Citation needed - social media seems to be very bad for young people's health, if anything. One would need citation for either claim honestly, there's plenty studies around the idea that social media actually doesn't have as much of an impact on mental health as people seem to believe, as well as the other way around. If we get more specific, people who have or are prone to certain psychological conditions do get aggravated by social media, but the same way that's true, it could be for anything else would there not be social media. In the end, what the comment says holds true regardless of how it may affect their long-term mental health
SecretDreams 2y ago
I don't disagree with you that it's probably bad for them, much like smoking. But it makes them FEEL temporarily happy. Much like smoking. Do you see my point? We're just taking random shit from them without giving anything back. Also, objectively, Meta's platform is just as bad for them as tiktok, so it's obvious to them that it's not being taken away because we actually care about their mental health lol.

> Young people now give up the app they use that actually makes them happy Citation needed - social media seems to be very bad for young people's health, if anything.

michaelt 2y ago

If the US was doing this for teen mental health, they'd have banned Twitter and Facebook too. This isn't about teen mental health.

jader201 2y ago
I don’t think the parent comment was arguing the motive for the ban. They’re just saying they’re not convinced TikTok causes the overall happiness the GP comment claims. I think it’s hard to argue that any social media has a net positive effect on mental health of any age, let alone the younger generations.
- SecretDreams 2y ago
  My own claim is more like a dopamine high. Like smoking. Both bad things in the long run, but makes them happu in the moment. Video games probably up there too in their current manifestation. Anywho, main point is more about giving this already vulnerable demographic more tools to succeed. Especially if, from their perspective, all we keep doing is making their lives worse.

fakedang 2y ago

That's like telling a drug addict that it's bad for his/her health. Sure you're staying facts, but they're not going to take it up. Might as well preach to the wind. From a young one's perspective, it's natural they're going to take it as one more incursion into their lives, else Red Note, an app made for a largely Chinese audience by an unrelated company would not have seen so much uptake over the past few days.

ipython 2y ago
Do we have actual numbers on signups for RedNote though? I feel that if I’ve learned anything in the past ten years of social media, a lot of noise is made by a very small percentage of users (not necessarily even people).

JavierFlores09 2y ago

> Citation needed - social media seems to be very bad for young people's health, if anything. One would need citation for either claim honestly, there's plenty studies around the idea that social media actually doesn't have as much of an impact on mental health as people seem to believe, as well as the other way around. If we get more specific, people who have or are prone to certain psychological conditions do get aggravated by social media, but the same way that's true, it could be for anything else would there not be social media. In the end, what the comment says holds true regardless of how it may affect their long-term mental health

SecretDreams 2y ago

I don't disagree with you that it's probably bad for them, much like smoking. But it makes them FEEL temporarily happy. Much like smoking. Do you see my point? We're just taking random shit from them without giving anything back. Also, objectively, Meta's platform is just as bad for them as tiktok, so it's obvious to them that it's not being taken away because we actually care about their mental health lol.