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Is there a term for the "I know that you know that I know…" thing? It's a fundamental part of fighting game strategy, particularly the aspect called "yomi", i.e
by henrebotha 2y ago
Is there a term for the "I know that you know that I know…" thing? It's a fundamental part of fighting game strategy, particularly the aspect called "yomi", i.e. reading the opponent's intentions so as to preemptively counter them.
- _dark_matter_ 2y agoThis could go on indefinitely ("I know that you know that I know that you know that I know that..."). I always consider this related to the Byzantine Generals problem.
- henrebotha 2y agoYes and somewhat infamously in the fighting game context, high level players can sometimes psych themselves out completely in the heat of the moment, trying to recursively parse the infinite stack of reads and just completely bluescreening and getting hit by the most obvious option possible.
- dooglius 2y agoThe term for an infinitely deep chain of that is "common knowledge"
- nothrabannosir 2y agoThere is a formalization using Modal Logic :) https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/logic-modal/#Games https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/logic-modal/#Games
- gcanyon 2y agoRick vs. Heistotron (starts with an annoying pre-roll, hence the start-at-9-seconds parameter) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyOAxh4Iybg&t=9 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyOAxh4Iybg&t=9
- mjburgess 2y agoTheory of mind
- Raidion 2y agoIn poker it's called levels. Fighter pilots call it being inside the other persons OODA loop.
- Fearlesspancake 2y agoIn forum mafia this is called "Wine in front of me", or WIFOM[0], referencing the Princess Bride scene[1] [0] https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=WIFOM https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=WIFOM [1] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U_eZmEiyTo0 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U_eZmEiyTo0
- randomcarbloke 2y agothe infinite regress