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"an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" is solution to you? Respect doesn't mean that you have to agree. If you believe that something is wrong, use arguments

"an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" is solution to you? Respect doesn't mean that you have to agree. If you believe that something is wrong, use arguments, educate, inform... It's hard to implement pathological behaviour in well informed and educated society. Fragile society, however, is easier to be manipulated with and lead to hate, violence and wars.

r33b33 2y ago
> "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" is solution to you? What's wrong with this solution?
- peoplefromibiza 2y ago
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- mattxxx 2y ago
  agreeing with the point the question makes here; the game theory of global politics does not work with the same morals that we prescribe individual people
- Barracoon 2y ago
  It makes the whole world blind
  - cocacola1 2y ago
    No, there'd be one person left with an eye. They could just dodge the last blind person.
- consteval 2y ago
  It doesn't actually solve anything, rather it makes the baseline lower by hurting everyone. I.e., it's an anti-solution - something that actively makes things worse, and can only make things worse, but masquerades as a solution. An example of an anti-solution is lowering crime by making something that was illegal no longer illegal (see: public transit vs automobiles). Or, reducing the incidence of something by making it illegal while simultaneously increasing it's necessity (see: abortion). Or, solving wage inequality by protesting minimum wage increases.
  - r33b33 2y ago
    Better to lower baseline for everyone than to be the naive sucker that gets taken advantage of
    - t0bia_s 2y ago
      Do you consider yourself as naive?
    - consteval 2y ago
      Right, but objectively it's not, because both parties experience either same or worse outcomes. So it's not better, by definition of "better".
swat535 2y ago
I agree, a "well informed" society would be wonderful but we have a long way to get there and even then, highly educated people are not immune to misinformation and propaganda. Not everything is black and white, there are always shades of grey and these are difficult to navigate. I think imposing certain limits on various freedoms, including speech is required for a functioning democracy. I also believe that there are deeper issues if the populace of a nation no longer respect the decisions made by its highest court of law.
herval 2y ago
“Tit for that” is a solution for the USA on a great deal of topics, from reciprocal taxes to reciprocal visa requirements for travel. Why not reciprocate social media site access too? It’s just another product after all?

r33b33 2y ago

> "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" is solution to you? What's wrong with this solution?

peoplefromibiza 2y ago
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mattxxx 2y ago
agreeing with the point the question makes here; the game theory of global politics does not work with the same morals that we prescribe individual people
Barracoon 2y ago
It makes the whole world blind
- cocacola1 2y ago
  No, there'd be one person left with an eye. They could just dodge the last blind person.
consteval 2y ago
It doesn't actually solve anything, rather it makes the baseline lower by hurting everyone. I.e., it's an anti-solution - something that actively makes things worse, and can only make things worse, but masquerades as a solution. An example of an anti-solution is lowering crime by making something that was illegal no longer illegal (see: public transit vs automobiles). Or, reducing the incidence of something by making it illegal while simultaneously increasing it's necessity (see: abortion). Or, solving wage inequality by protesting minimum wage increases.
- r33b33 2y ago
  Better to lower baseline for everyone than to be the naive sucker that gets taken advantage of
  - t0bia_s 2y ago
    Do you consider yourself as naive?
  - consteval 2y ago
    Right, but objectively it's not, because both parties experience either same or worse outcomes. So it's not better, by definition of "better".

swat535 2y ago

I agree, a "well informed" society would be wonderful but we have a long way to get there and even then, highly educated people are not immune to misinformation and propaganda. Not everything is black and white, there are always shades of grey and these are difficult to navigate. I think imposing certain limits on various freedoms, including speech is required for a functioning democracy. I also believe that there are deeper issues if the populace of a nation no longer respect the decisions made by its highest court of law.

herval 2y ago

“Tit for that” is a solution for the USA on a great deal of topics, from reciprocal taxes to reciprocal visa requirements for travel. Why not reciprocate social media site access too? It’s just another product after all?