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Sounds like the mafia. I wish CPC could do the same thing to Telsa and Apple, or even to kidnap Tim Cook just like how they kidnapped Meng Wanzhou, gee, that w

by suraci 2y ago

Sounds like the mafia. I wish CPC could do the same thing to Telsa and Apple, or even to kidnap Tim Cook just like how they kidnapped Meng Wanzhou, gee, that would be thrilling

epolanski 2y ago
But the Chinese actually have very stringent law that makes operating there impossible.
girvo 2y ago
The CCP flat out bans most western countries from even operating, and has absolutely kidnapped businesspeople (and normal civilians).
motorest 2y ago
> Sounds like the mafia. You're taking a decision to protect national interests that safeguards investor's interests, and here you are spinning it with "mafia" nonsense. Pray tell, how do you address the problem of having a totalitarian regime manipulating and spying on your whole country? Do you try to shut down the operation? Or do you argue they should continue their psyops operations because otherwise it "sounds like the mafia"?
bluebarbet 2y ago
Thank you for using the correct acronym (CPC, Communist Party of China) rather than the incorrect acronym-of-the-colloquial-variant CCP, which seems to be achieving ascendancy in the discourse. Acronyms are like variable names, we would do better to use the right one and then stick to it.
- suraci 2y ago
  > Thank you for using the correct acronym (CPC, Communist Party of China) rather than the incorrect acronym-of-the-colloquial-variant CCP, which seems to be achieving ascendancy in the discourse. Glad you pointed out the details. CPC is the correct official name. If someone insists on using CCP, here's my speculation, it usually means they have been heavily influenced by anti-communist propaganda and narratives from the U.S. government, or they are deliberately using the incorrect name to be derogatory. funny I just saw something similar in other thread: > I will use the term Ruzzia and Ruzzians to identify the Zed regime and the Zed patriots, Ruzzian != Russian, Ruzzian = a Zed patriot, a imperialist Russian or Putin fanboy, proud to stick a Zed on his face,body or property At least he's honest, I do appreciate that
  - quesera 2y ago
    > If someone insists on using CCP, here's my speculation, it usually means they have been heavily influenced by anti-communist propaganda and narratives from the U.S. government, or they are deliberately using the incorrect name to be derogatory. Do you think there's a meaningful difference between the (official) "Communist Party of China" and the (colloquial) "Chinese Communist Party"? It seems like if derogation was the goal, you could come up with something more effective than an equivalent translation. There's a US federal agency called the CPC. Disambiguation could be a reasonable explanation.
    - suraci 2y ago
      there're no such thing like 'colloquial' name as CCP it's used by the US officials by decades, and it's an old trick used by US intelligences to disturbe informations like when you search 'CCP' and 'CPC', you'll get totally different results 'CCP' is not the colloquial name, it's the name Americans heard days and days from their government's propaganda Let's just be honest with each other I confess I use the name 'Amerika' to expresse certain meanings
      - quesera 2y ago
        I see no reason to believe your version. In English, adjectives before the noun are the usual form.
        bluebarbet 2y ago
        Sure, but that's not the correct usage with proper noun acronyms, i.e. ones referring to official names. The official name is the Communist Party of China.
        quesera 2y ago
        Fair point, but it doesn't point directly toward "intentional derogatory perversion by the US government". Also keep in mind that the official name is not in English. And what is the standard process for nations to produce "official" foreign-language names for internal subgovernmental organizations, anyway? Is there an official name in French, or Mandarin, for the Blue Dog Coalition?

by suraci 2y ago

Sounds like the mafia. I wish CPC could do the same thing to Telsa and Apple, or even to kidnap Tim Cook just like how they kidnapped Meng Wanzhou, gee, that would be thrilling

epolanski 2y ago

But the Chinese actually have very stringent law that makes operating there impossible.

girvo 2y ago

The CCP flat out bans most western countries from even operating, and has absolutely kidnapped businesspeople (and normal civilians).

motorest 2y ago

> Sounds like the mafia. You're taking a decision to protect national interests that safeguards investor's interests, and here you are spinning it with "mafia" nonsense. Pray tell, how do you address the problem of having a totalitarian regime manipulating and spying on your whole country? Do you try to shut down the operation? Or do you argue they should continue their psyops operations because otherwise it "sounds like the mafia"?

bluebarbet 2y ago

Thank you for using the correct acronym (CPC, Communist Party of China) rather than the incorrect acronym-of-the-colloquial-variant CCP, which seems to be achieving ascendancy in the discourse. Acronyms are like variable names, we would do better to use the right one and then stick to it.

suraci 2y ago
> Thank you for using the correct acronym (CPC, Communist Party of China) rather than the incorrect acronym-of-the-colloquial-variant CCP, which seems to be achieving ascendancy in the discourse. Glad you pointed out the details. CPC is the correct official name. If someone insists on using CCP, here's my speculation, it usually means they have been heavily influenced by anti-communist propaganda and narratives from the U.S. government, or they are deliberately using the incorrect name to be derogatory. funny I just saw something similar in other thread: > I will use the term Ruzzia and Ruzzians to identify the Zed regime and the Zed patriots, Ruzzian != Russian, Ruzzian = a Zed patriot, a imperialist Russian or Putin fanboy, proud to stick a Zed on his face,body or property At least he's honest, I do appreciate that
- quesera 2y ago
  > If someone insists on using CCP, here's my speculation, it usually means they have been heavily influenced by anti-communist propaganda and narratives from the U.S. government, or they are deliberately using the incorrect name to be derogatory. Do you think there's a meaningful difference between the (official) "Communist Party of China" and the (colloquial) "Chinese Communist Party"? It seems like if derogation was the goal, you could come up with something more effective than an equivalent translation. There's a US federal agency called the CPC. Disambiguation could be a reasonable explanation.
  - suraci 2y ago
    there're no such thing like 'colloquial' name as CCP it's used by the US officials by decades, and it's an old trick used by US intelligences to disturbe informations like when you search 'CCP' and 'CPC', you'll get totally different results 'CCP' is not the colloquial name, it's the name Americans heard days and days from their government's propaganda Let's just be honest with each other I confess I use the name 'Amerika' to expresse certain meanings
    - quesera 2y ago
      I see no reason to believe your version. In English, adjectives before the noun are the usual form.
      - bluebarbet 2y ago
        Sure, but that's not the correct usage with proper noun acronyms, i.e. ones referring to official names. The official name is the Communist Party of China.
        quesera 2y ago
        Fair point, but it doesn't point directly toward "intentional derogatory perversion by the US government". Also keep in mind that the official name is not in English. And what is the standard process for nations to produce "official" foreign-language names for internal subgovernmental organizations, anyway? Is there an official name in French, or Mandarin, for the Blue Dog Coalition?