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One is a "bastion of democracy", and another is the "center of human rights violation". Would you not expect the rules to be different? If it's only about rec
by necovek 2y ago
One is a "bastion of democracy", and another is the "center of human rights violation".
Would you not expect the rules to be different?
If it's only about reciprocity and global hegemony, well then...
- unknownsky 2y agoAre you saying the United States is a bastion of democracy? It's not even classified as a full democracy. The list of full democracies are Canada, Austria, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Iceland, Ireland, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom, Costa Rica, Uruguay, Australia, Japan, New Zealand, South Korea, Taiwan, and Mauritius. United States is classified as a flawed democracy. Partly because sweeping decisions like this one are made by Supreme Court Justices who nobody voted for and who hold their position for life. Or maybe that's what you meant and you were being sarcastic with the quotation marks around "bastion of democracy"?
- mirzap 2y agoIn almost every country, the President or the Parliament selects Supreme Court Justices. In some countries, the President picks x, and the Parliament picks y. They don't have terms. Direct democracy does not make sense when selecting justices.
- necovek 2y agoI am not making a statement, mostly portraying the official stance from the USA government that has just had their decision to ban TikTok come into effect. As in, due to their official stance, we should not expect reciprocity at all. But you did pique my curiosity, where did you get that list of "full democracies"?
- macbr 2y agoTheir source is the “The Economist Democracy Index” [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index
- pigeons 2y agoCanada has a king.
- defrost 2y agoSo? A number of democratic countries have residual symbolic figureheads.
- pigeons 2y agoIn Canada all laws the legislature passes have to be approved by the monarch or the monarch's representative. In Canada the monarch is the judicial branch. Ministers are appointed and dismissed by the monarch. Parliament can be adjourned by the monarch.
- defrost 2y agoAgain, so? When was they last time these things weren't rubber stamped? What do you suppose would happen should the symbolic monarch not rubber stamp procedure? Why is it that Canada, et al are regarded in the world as "full democracies" whereas the US is ramked a bit lower as a "flawed democracy"? ( See: peer comment with wikipedia link to democratic rankings )
- Fnoord 2y agoSaid 'bastion of democracy' is a flawd democracy [1] who voted in a president who allegedly (facepalm) initiated a coup and got away with it. Also, a convicted criminal. You could say it is a bastion of liberty but I'm from Europe and women here have reasonable abortion and sexuality rights. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Inde...
- whoitwas 2y agoBytedance chose this by not doing as requested. I wouldn't refer to USA as very democratic or China as a center of human rights violation. If there is no blanket ban, there would have to be many laws, rules, regulations and restrictions prohibiting the software from government buildings, etc. In addition to the data points: contacts, location, audio, video, etc, malicious actors can learn a lot through deduction. That's before any sort of manipulation.
- lmz 2y agoIt may be a "bastion of democracy" but that says nothing about how it interferes with other countries. Democracy is only for citizens anyway.