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China doesn't allow foreign corporations to operate within their borders. why should we? there is no First Amendment right for Chinese companies to operate wit

China doesn't allow foreign corporations to operate within their borders. why should we? there is no First Amendment right for Chinese companies to operate within our market. there is no First Amendment right for RT to be carried on US cable networks. if TikTok were a website, it'd be different. it'd be one thing if the US were blackholing tiktok.com. but TikTok is an app that sells ads, and they're not entitled to sell ads to US businesses or publish on US app stores.

suraci 2y ago
> China doesn't allow foreign corporations to operate within their borders It's not true, just to clarify it. Many foreign corporations operating in China, only if they: 1. Keep all user data within the border. 2. Cooperate with censorship TikTok meets the first condition in the U.S., and I think the issue lies with the second condition.
- sterlind 2y ago
  I could be wrong, but I thought you have to operate a subsidiary in China, which is majority Chinese-owned. for example, Azure China is operated by 21Vianet, who also owns all the infrastructure.
  - suraci 2y ago
    Yeah, that's the part 1, all data must be within the border so Azure in China can only be ran by a Chinese entity If you look at it from the other side, it's like Tiktok must be hosted by Microsoft/Amazon but not datacenters in China
logicchains 2y ago
>China doesn't allow foreign corporations to operate within their borders. why should we? China is a dictatorship where people have no rights. America was built on the principle that the government shouldn't have the power to tell the common people what to do.
- TulliusCicero 2y ago
  The idea that the US government doesn't have the power to regulate trade, especially with geopolitical adversaries, has never been some bedrock principle of America.
Kamq 2y ago
> there is no First Amendment right for RT to be carried on US cable networks. There might be, but it would be the cable network's first amendment right to carry them, not RT's right to be carried. The argument in court was kind of backwards, nobody violated TikTok's rights by taking them off the app store, but you could fairly easily argue that Apple and Google's rights were violated by telling them that they can't carry it. That would, presumably, require either Apple or Google to bring a lawsuit though, and they seem to want to play nice with the incoming administration.

suraci 2y ago

> China doesn't allow foreign corporations to operate within their borders It's not true, just to clarify it. Many foreign corporations operating in China, only if they: 1. Keep all user data within the border. 2. Cooperate with censorship TikTok meets the first condition in the U.S., and I think the issue lies with the second condition.

sterlind 2y ago
I could be wrong, but I thought you have to operate a subsidiary in China, which is majority Chinese-owned. for example, Azure China is operated by 21Vianet, who also owns all the infrastructure.
- suraci 2y ago
  Yeah, that's the part 1, all data must be within the border so Azure in China can only be ran by a Chinese entity If you look at it from the other side, it's like Tiktok must be hosted by Microsoft/Amazon but not datacenters in China

logicchains 2y ago

>China doesn't allow foreign corporations to operate within their borders. why should we? China is a dictatorship where people have no rights. America was built on the principle that the government shouldn't have the power to tell the common people what to do.

TulliusCicero 2y ago
The idea that the US government doesn't have the power to regulate trade, especially with geopolitical adversaries, has never been some bedrock principle of America.

Kamq 2y ago

> there is no First Amendment right for RT to be carried on US cable networks. There might be, but it would be the cable network's first amendment right to carry them, not RT's right to be carried. The argument in court was kind of backwards, nobody violated TikTok's rights by taking them off the app store, but you could fairly easily argue that Apple and Google's rights were violated by telling them that they can't carry it. That would, presumably, require either Apple or Google to bring a lawsuit though, and they seem to want to play nice with the incoming administration.