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Amazing that we don’t hear this book quoted more often along with 1984, we seem to be living funhouse versions of both.
by moshun 2y ago
Amazing that we don’t hear this book quoted more often along with 1984, we seem to be living funhouse versions of both.
- tsimionescu 2y agoNote that this preface was not allowed to be published together with the book, it was censored last minute by the publishers. The public narrative about Animal Farm is almost exclusively that it is an allegory for the USSR, an attack on the false equality that they professed. The preface explaining that it's very much intended to attack the UK and more generally European and US governments' tendencies is even today not included in the vast majority of printings of Animal Farm.
- _yb2s 2y agoThose publishers must have been tragically born without a sense of irony.
- ImHereToVote 2y agoThey are just practicing Oligarchical Collectivism.
- mlvljr 2y ago[dead]
- goatlover 2y agoIt's obviously a criticism of both, the farmers and the pigs. Orwell was not fond of the USSR either.
- tsimionescu 2y agoRight, I should have been more clear, my comment does come off as suggesting it's not about the USSR at all, which is obviously false.
- K0nserv 2y agoI wasn't aware of this proposed preface[0]. It's a great read and is, interestingly, somewhat applicable to the TikTok situation. However, you are incorrect, the preface does not say the book is intended as an attack on the UK, European, or US governments. What it does discuss, is how, primarily, the British intelligentsia resisted the criticism of the USSR in the book because of the wartime alliance between the UK and the USSR. The preface makes it quite clear that Animal Farm is in fact an attack on the USSR specifically. 0: https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/the-freedom-of-the-press/ https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwel...
- K0nserv 2y agoActually, I'm not sure if this is the preface the OP was talking about, in fact it's not clear to me who the author of it is. There's another preface[0], from the Uranian edition of Animal Farm, that they might have been referring to. While it does contain some criticism of the the UK, quite expected as Orwell was a socialist, it also doesn't claim that Animal Farm was really about UK, European, or US governments. EDIT: I found the primary source[1] of the unpublished preface, it does list Orwell as its author. 0: https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/books-by-orwell/animal-farm/preface-to-the-ukrainian-edition-of-animal-farm-by-george-orwell/ https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwel... 1: https://archive.org/details/TheTimesLiterarySupplement1972UKEnglish/Sep%2015%201972%2C%20The%20Times%20Literary%20Supplement%2C%20%233680%2C%20UK%20%28en%29/mode/1up https://archive.org/details/TheTimesLiterarySupplement1972UK...
- yoz-y 2y agoThe book gets quoted quite enough. But quotes are really bad arguments. Here’s one that flies in the face of the Orwell’s: Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. [...] We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. - Karl R. Popper In practice we’ve seen both ways play out badly. So clearly we can’t just hope that full freedom is good, and good guys will win.
- t0bia_s 2y agoYou misunderstood Proppers thoughts. There is interesting article about this topic. https://www.persuasion.community/p/yes-you-do-have-to-tolerate-the-intolerant https://www.persuasion.community/p/yes-you-do-have-to-tolera...
- portaouflop 2y agoTo me it feels more like living in a William Gibson novel crossed with Idiocracy