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The omission of blocked posts is done server-side by the app.bsky.feed.getPostThread endpoint, so you'd need to reimplement that to return the content of blocke

by nastoy 2y ago

The omission of blocked posts is done server-side by the app.bsky.feed.getPostThread endpoint, so you'd need to reimplement that to return the content of blocked posts instead, both upthread (parent) and downthread (replies). It would require acquiring and maintaining your own replica of the data, which is hundreds of gigabytes in size. This is significantly more complex than making a few small changes to the frontend app.

verdverm 2y ago
This is absolutely and provably wrong. I have written my own webapp (https://blebbit.com https://blebbit.com) and I can see content and accounts I have blocked on Bluesky. I just validated this to be the true. This because I have not implemented block respecting in my own code yet. It's more work to actually respect the blocking. The full backup of ATProto is more than 5T now. You seem really misinformed about all of this. Or maybe you created an account to intentionally spread falsehoods about Bluesky? There has been a flurry of this on HN lately
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- nastoy 2y ago
  No, this is not wrong. I will demonstrate. Here is a sample conversation between three users A, B, and C: https://i.ibb.co/CJkZWBG/image.png https://i.ibb.co/CJkZWBG/image.png No-one has blocked anyone at this point, so the conversation is visible to all parties and any onlookers. Your own app shows the same: https://i.ibb.co/3kxp5Q9/image.png https://i.ibb.co/3kxp5Q9/image.png Now for whatever reason, user B decides to block user A. The entire subthread starting with user B's response to user A is removed, which includes making the discussion between user A and user C no longer viewable in that thread, to anyone: https://i.ibb.co/j6f9z92/image.png https://i.ibb.co/j6f9z92/image.png This appears exactly the same in your app: https://i.ibb.co/2Px9bw5/image.png https://i.ibb.co/2Px9bw5/image.png The root cause is that the app.bsky.feed.getPostThread endpoint omits the entire tree of replies for that subthread in its response: https://i.ibb.co/F45n6QV/image.png https://i.ibb.co/F45n6QV/image.png Please feel free to verify this in your own browser and explain why you believe this to be incorrect.
  - verdverm 2y ago
    yet... https://ibb.co/h8JWzHH https://ibb.co/h8JWzHH
    - nastoy 2y ago
      Having to visit the Replies page of user C and try to piece together snippets of conversation - some of which are still unviewable - is not a reasonable solution. In particular, posts 7 and 8 are not there and the link between posts 1 and 2 is severed.
      - verdverm 2y ago
        > not a reasonable solution That's your opinion. The vast majority of ATProto users like the enhanced controls over their conversations. If you don't like it, use a different social media platform
        nastoy 2y ago
        That it's unreasonable to expect users to mitigate this by hunting around others' profiles for snippets of conversation is my opinion, yes. That one user blocking another user makes chunks of the conversation disappear for everyone else viewing the thread is verifiable fact. As it is a verifiable fact that this is done server-side via the getPostThread endpoint, by which posts in the parent and replies fields of the response are omitted. This is not "absolutely and provably wrong", as you put it. Maybe do some research yourself before accusing others of intentionally spreading falsehoods?
        verdverm 2y ago
        You said posts were blocked when what you are actually describing is replies being disconnected from a post on that post. They are still visible within the network It's working as expected You have made multiple other inaccurate statements about Bluesky / ATProto throughout your comments with your new account
giaour 2y ago
The filtering of blocked replies is done server-side. You can view whatever top-level posts you want in the protocol; making those visible/invisible is up to the client software. If I post something that gets traction, and someone replies with an ad for ED pills, I should be able to remove that spam from the discussion on my thread and not just from my view of it. If others have already "engaged" with a plug for boner pills, their replies are not lost but are just no longer part of the thread stemming from my post. If you as the OP don't want this behavior, there are other tools at your disposal (mute the replier instead, "hide for everyone", etc).
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by nastoy 2y ago

verdverm 2y ago

This is absolutely and provably wrong. I have written my own webapp (https://blebbit.com https://blebbit.com) and I can see content and accounts I have blocked on Bluesky. I just validated this to be the true. This because I have not implemented block respecting in my own code yet. It's more work to actually respect the blocking. The full backup of ATProto is more than 5T now. You seem really misinformed about all of this. Or maybe you created an account to intentionally spread falsehoods about Bluesky? There has been a flurry of this on HN lately

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nastoy 2y ago
No, this is not wrong. I will demonstrate. Here is a sample conversation between three users A, B, and C: https://i.ibb.co/CJkZWBG/image.png https://i.ibb.co/CJkZWBG/image.png No-one has blocked anyone at this point, so the conversation is visible to all parties and any onlookers. Your own app shows the same: https://i.ibb.co/3kxp5Q9/image.png https://i.ibb.co/3kxp5Q9/image.png Now for whatever reason, user B decides to block user A. The entire subthread starting with user B's response to user A is removed, which includes making the discussion between user A and user C no longer viewable in that thread, to anyone: https://i.ibb.co/j6f9z92/image.png https://i.ibb.co/j6f9z92/image.png This appears exactly the same in your app: https://i.ibb.co/2Px9bw5/image.png https://i.ibb.co/2Px9bw5/image.png The root cause is that the app.bsky.feed.getPostThread endpoint omits the entire tree of replies for that subthread in its response: https://i.ibb.co/F45n6QV/image.png https://i.ibb.co/F45n6QV/image.png Please feel free to verify this in your own browser and explain why you believe this to be incorrect.
- verdverm 2y ago
  yet... https://ibb.co/h8JWzHH https://ibb.co/h8JWzHH
  - nastoy 2y ago
    Having to visit the Replies page of user C and try to piece together snippets of conversation - some of which are still unviewable - is not a reasonable solution. In particular, posts 7 and 8 are not there and the link between posts 1 and 2 is severed.
    - verdverm 2y ago
      > not a reasonable solution That's your opinion. The vast majority of ATProto users like the enhanced controls over their conversations. If you don't like it, use a different social media platform
      - nastoy 2y ago
        That it's unreasonable to expect users to mitigate this by hunting around others' profiles for snippets of conversation is my opinion, yes. That one user blocking another user makes chunks of the conversation disappear for everyone else viewing the thread is verifiable fact. As it is a verifiable fact that this is done server-side via the getPostThread endpoint, by which posts in the parent and replies fields of the response are omitted. This is not "absolutely and provably wrong", as you put it. Maybe do some research yourself before accusing others of intentionally spreading falsehoods?
        verdverm 2y ago
        You said posts were blocked when what you are actually describing is replies being disconnected from a post on that post. They are still visible within the network It's working as expected You have made multiple other inaccurate statements about Bluesky / ATProto throughout your comments with your new account

giaour 2y ago

The filtering of blocked replies is done server-side. You can view whatever top-level posts you want in the protocol; making those visible/invisible is up to the client software. If I post something that gets traction, and someone replies with an ad for ED pills, I should be able to remove that spam from the discussion on my thread and not just from my view of it. If others have already "engaged" with a plug for boner pills, their replies are not lost but are just no longer part of the thread stemming from my post. If you as the OP don't want this behavior, there are other tools at your disposal (mute the replier instead, "hide for everyone", etc).

llvm-dev 2y ago
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