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The app was shutdown a couple of hours ago in the US and this was the message all TikTok users saw when they opened the app.[1] The same guy who pushed for a b

The app was shutdown a couple of hours ago in the US and this was the message all TikTok users saw when they opened the app.[1] The same guy who pushed for a ban massively last year, is going to save the app despite the security concerns he and most of our government said they had. If only we knew what happened in that classified briefing that made them vote together across party lines. [1] https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxbusiness.com/foxbusiness.com/content/uploads/2025/01/720/405/4edf26d5-tiktok.jpg?ve=1&tl=1 https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxbusiness.com/foxbusiness.c...

afavour 2y ago
They’re massaging his ego and quite honestly it might be their best strategy. A whole lot of people out there want their TikTok back and you can bet Trump would love to call the press conference announcing that he, and only he, did the greatest deal and got the app back. Classified briefing be damned.
- _2d30 2y ago
  If you want another angle beyond "massaging egos", look into the Trump <> Jeff Yass connection: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Yass https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Yass
csomar 2y ago
This is what happens when the process of law gets thrown out of the window and instead power is negotiated by people at the top. As someone who lived in a dictatorship -> democracy -> dictatorship, seeing tech CEOs pilgrimage to the Trump house, the US is critically close to turning into a dictatorship.
- Andys 2y ago
  This is exactly what we saw when Sept 11 happened (over 20 years ago) and the Republicans decided to invade Iraq and carry out all sorts of extra-judicial mischief. I started to think the world was going to end but its ticking along in the same manner which has now coloured my views.
  - csomar 2y ago
    States have a different (and significantly longer) timelines that humans. Even the Soviet Union "instant" collapse took years.
  - stogot 2y ago
    The 2008 administration under Obama carried out far more drone strikes & extra judicial efforts. Not justifying it but let’s not forget either
jakelazaroff 2y ago
That last sentence is sarcastic, right? They didn’t like that TikTok was showing pro-Palestinian content. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/lawmakers-tiktok-ban-pro-palestinian-content-1235016101/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/lawmaker...
- silisili 2y ago
  I'm not going to pick a side, as I'm not versed enough in the history and nuances. But I will say, partly emboldened by Massie's admissions, the absolute control Israel has over the US government is concerning.
  - whattheheckheck 2y ago
    You chose a side by submitting that comment due to the implication and probability distribution of the next thoughts that will occur in someone's head upon someone reading it.
    - silisili 2y ago
      Not at all. My first sentence was in reference to the Israel/Palestine conflict. It's completely possible, perhaps even likely, that Israel is justified in the conflict, but doesn't change my feelings that they have too much control of our own government, mostly via AIPAC.
- deleted 2y ago
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mrtksn 2y ago
“Freedom loving Trump saving freedom of speech from the dictators that ban apps” would be such a boon for Trump. It’s amazing that the current administration set up such a scene.
- DrBenCarson 2y ago
  This law was passed by Congress and upheld 9-0 by the Supreme Court
  - mrtksn 2y ago
    And?
    - _2d30 2y ago
      And the job of the executive branch is to enforce the laws passed by the legislative.
    - freddie_mercury 2y ago
      Meaning the current administration had literally zero to do with it. Do you understand that the President doesn't pass laws, Congress does?
    - matttproud 2y ago
      The American people by and large do not know how government operates, who has power and authority over what, etc. Blame and reward usually is attributed to the President who has high visibility.
      - suraci 2y ago
        Is this the 'deep state' Trump accused of? could you explain this in more detail? really curious about it.
    - DrBenCarson 2y ago
      The current administration has very little to do with this
guelo 2y ago
There was nothing in the classified briefing. The ban was enacted because their zionist donors told them to. Our government is corrupted past the point of recovery.
- daemoens 2y ago
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  - guelo 2y ago
    If you read Senator's quotes from the the time, for example here https://www.npr.org/2024/03/21/1239691465/tiktok-ban-bill-senate https://www.npr.org/2024/03/21/1239691465/tiktok-ban-bill-se..., all the senators are saying the briefing should be public, aka it's b.s. there's nothing in it. They talked about chinese collecting data and potentially manipulating the algorithm, just the standard public discussion about this. Halfway through that article Tom Cotton slips and complains about a "clear skew in pro-Hamas propaganda" which is a flat out illegal 1st amendment violation, censorship based on viewpoint.
  - diebeforei485 2y ago
    AOC said there was nothing special in the classified briefing.
stonesthrowaway 2y ago
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- Isinlor 2y ago
  Ukraine war is very serious. After Poland managed to collapse communist regime in partially free elections in 1989 where all elected sits went to democratic opposition the whole Soviet Union collapsed. Ukraine declared independence in 1991, all regions of Ukraine decided to stay with Ukraine in national referendum. In 1991 Polish and Ukraine GDP were about equal, both countries have around 40 million citizens. Poland immediately turned towards West. We rapidly liberated our economy - Balcerowicz reforms. We aimed at joining NATO and EU as guarantees of our independence from Soviets/Russia. After invading Poland in 1939 with Germans, last Russian soldiers left Poland in 1993. We joined NATO in 1999 and EU in 2004. Ukraine on the other hand was divided between West and East. In 2021 Polish economy was 3 times bigger than Ukrainian. More than million Ukrainians were economic migrants in Poland. We made the right choice with turning immediately towards West with full force. Ukraine stumbled. But they saw that Poland is doing so much better than they were doing. That's why they wanted to join EU. That's what started Euromajdan. Now Russia is threatening all of us with nuclear holocaust. Every other month you can hear from the highest Russian leadership nuclear threats. We have lost 20% of population in WWII started by Germany and Soviet Russia. Every fifth person killed. We are taking Russian holocaust threats 100% seriously.
tivert 2y ago
> If only we knew what happened in that classified briefing that made them vote together across party lines. I don't know about any classified briefing, but TikTok publicly shot itself in the foot badly during the vote, though a hamfisted attempt to influence it. I think that was enough in itself to bring about bipartisan unity.

afavour 2y ago

They’re massaging his ego and quite honestly it might be their best strategy. A whole lot of people out there want their TikTok back and you can bet Trump would love to call the press conference announcing that he, and only he, did the greatest deal and got the app back. Classified briefing be damned.

_2d30 2y ago
If you want another angle beyond "massaging egos", look into the Trump <> Jeff Yass connection: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Yass https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Yass

csomar 2y ago

This is what happens when the process of law gets thrown out of the window and instead power is negotiated by people at the top. As someone who lived in a dictatorship -> democracy -> dictatorship, seeing tech CEOs pilgrimage to the Trump house, the US is critically close to turning into a dictatorship.

Andys 2y ago
This is exactly what we saw when Sept 11 happened (over 20 years ago) and the Republicans decided to invade Iraq and carry out all sorts of extra-judicial mischief. I started to think the world was going to end but its ticking along in the same manner which has now coloured my views.
- csomar 2y ago
  States have a different (and significantly longer) timelines that humans. Even the Soviet Union "instant" collapse took years.
- stogot 2y ago
  The 2008 administration under Obama carried out far more drone strikes & extra judicial efforts. Not justifying it but let’s not forget either

jakelazaroff 2y ago

That last sentence is sarcastic, right? They didn’t like that TikTok was showing pro-Palestinian content. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/lawmakers-tiktok-ban-pro-palestinian-content-1235016101/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/lawmaker...

silisili 2y ago
I'm not going to pick a side, as I'm not versed enough in the history and nuances. But I will say, partly emboldened by Massie's admissions, the absolute control Israel has over the US government is concerning.
- whattheheckheck 2y ago
  You chose a side by submitting that comment due to the implication and probability distribution of the next thoughts that will occur in someone's head upon someone reading it.
  - silisili 2y ago
    Not at all. My first sentence was in reference to the Israel/Palestine conflict. It's completely possible, perhaps even likely, that Israel is justified in the conflict, but doesn't change my feelings that they have too much control of our own government, mostly via AIPAC.
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mrtksn 2y ago

“Freedom loving Trump saving freedom of speech from the dictators that ban apps” would be such a boon for Trump. It’s amazing that the current administration set up such a scene.

DrBenCarson 2y ago
This law was passed by Congress and upheld 9-0 by the Supreme Court
- mrtksn 2y ago
  And?
  - _2d30 2y ago
    And the job of the executive branch is to enforce the laws passed by the legislative.
  - freddie_mercury 2y ago
    Meaning the current administration had literally zero to do with it. Do you understand that the President doesn't pass laws, Congress does?
  - matttproud 2y ago
    The American people by and large do not know how government operates, who has power and authority over what, etc. Blame and reward usually is attributed to the President who has high visibility.
    - suraci 2y ago
      Is this the 'deep state' Trump accused of? could you explain this in more detail? really curious about it.
  - DrBenCarson 2y ago
    The current administration has very little to do with this

guelo 2y ago

There was nothing in the classified briefing. The ban was enacted because their zionist donors told them to. Our government is corrupted past the point of recovery.

daemoens 2y ago
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- guelo 2y ago
  If you read Senator's quotes from the the time, for example here https://www.npr.org/2024/03/21/1239691465/tiktok-ban-bill-senate https://www.npr.org/2024/03/21/1239691465/tiktok-ban-bill-se..., all the senators are saying the briefing should be public, aka it's b.s. there's nothing in it. They talked about chinese collecting data and potentially manipulating the algorithm, just the standard public discussion about this. Halfway through that article Tom Cotton slips and complains about a "clear skew in pro-Hamas propaganda" which is a flat out illegal 1st amendment violation, censorship based on viewpoint.
- diebeforei485 2y ago
  AOC said there was nothing special in the classified briefing.

stonesthrowaway 2y ago

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Isinlor 2y ago
Ukraine war is very serious. After Poland managed to collapse communist regime in partially free elections in 1989 where all elected sits went to democratic opposition the whole Soviet Union collapsed. Ukraine declared independence in 1991, all regions of Ukraine decided to stay with Ukraine in national referendum. In 1991 Polish and Ukraine GDP were about equal, both countries have around 40 million citizens. Poland immediately turned towards West. We rapidly liberated our economy - Balcerowicz reforms. We aimed at joining NATO and EU as guarantees of our independence from Soviets/Russia. After invading Poland in 1939 with Germans, last Russian soldiers left Poland in 1993. We joined NATO in 1999 and EU in 2004. Ukraine on the other hand was divided between West and East. In 2021 Polish economy was 3 times bigger than Ukrainian. More than million Ukrainians were economic migrants in Poland. We made the right choice with turning immediately towards West with full force. Ukraine stumbled. But they saw that Poland is doing so much better than they were doing. That's why they wanted to join EU. That's what started Euromajdan. Now Russia is threatening all of us with nuclear holocaust. Every other month you can hear from the highest Russian leadership nuclear threats. We have lost 20% of population in WWII started by Germany and Soviet Russia. Every fifth person killed. We are taking Russian holocaust threats 100% seriously.

tivert 2y ago

> If only we knew what happened in that classified briefing that made them vote together across party lines. I don't know about any classified briefing, but TikTok publicly shot itself in the foot badly during the vote, though a hamfisted attempt to influence it. I think that was enough in itself to bring about bipartisan unity.