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My sense is that many of the complaints about a "skills shortage" are in fact thinly veiled boasts about the selectivity and eliteness of the complainant and hi

by olefoo 14y ago

My sense is that many of the complaints about a "skills shortage" are in fact thinly veiled boasts about the selectivity and eliteness of the complainant and his organization. It's my observation that most of the actual hiring still happens through informal networks and social contacts rather than through the official, formal hiring process.

mynameishere 14y ago
most of the actual hiring Most hiring happens in the formal way. Now, if you actually have a network of highly skilled associates, then maybe that's not true. But such networks exist in tiny pockets as in SV.
jandrewrogers 14y ago
While a "skills shortage" complaint is an obvious status seeking behavior, it does not take away that there is an actual and severe skills shortage for many position. There are normal software developer jobs where it is nearly impossible to find anyone qualified even when one has no significant price sensitivity. We know such people exist because we have some on staff but expanding the pool has proven to be difficult. For some segments of the market, the skills shortage is legit.
- xiaoma 14y ago
  >There are normal software developer jobs where it is nearly impossible to find anyone qualified even when one has no significant price sensitivity. Well, if you're looking for someone with a year's experience at a start up with decent JS/jQuery skills, some experience on iOS and ruby and hobby stuff on the side... Have a look at my profile. I'm a pretty bright guy with a track record of learning stuff that most people struggle with, but so far have had an unsuccessful job search in SF for 2 months due to pretty much everybody wanting an expert. Edit: If you're looking only for those who already possess "expert", "ninja" or "rockstar" skills, then please don't email me.
Tangaroa 14y ago
It could also be location-dependant. There's apparently a skills shortage in the South Bay and Peninsula, but there's a jobs shortage in the North Bay. Then there's the fact that recruitments for managers and lead engineers outnumber those for junior-level programmers and testers, and nobody is taking the effort to train junior-level employees up to the skill level that they are looking for. A company could also have obscene contract terms that highly skilled employees with good job prospects will turn away from. Things that I've seen or heard about include non-compete clauses that are broad enough to force you out of the industry for up to three years after leaving the company, NDAs broad enough to prevent you from blogging about your whole industry or even mentioning that you work for the company, surrendering all copyright to everything you have ever developed or would develop independantly of your work at the company (California law allows you to have personal projects regardless of contract terms so long as they're unrelated to your work), and pledging to never sue the company under any circumstances no matter what they do to you (objecting to that one cost me my last job). Word can get around about these things, and the most skilled employees with the most job freedom can afford not to bother applying to certain places.
michaelt 14y ago
How un-selective does an employer have to be before they can talk about skills shortages? I'm sure you've heard of Fizz Buzz - http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2007/02/why-cant-programmers-program.html http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2007/02/why-cant-programmer... - is that too difficult a problem?

by olefoo 14y ago

mynameishere 14y ago

most of the actual hiring Most hiring happens in the formal way. Now, if you actually have a network of highly skilled associates, then maybe that's not true. But such networks exist in tiny pockets as in SV.

jandrewrogers 14y ago

While a "skills shortage" complaint is an obvious status seeking behavior, it does not take away that there is an actual and severe skills shortage for many position. There are normal software developer jobs where it is nearly impossible to find anyone qualified even when one has no significant price sensitivity. We know such people exist because we have some on staff but expanding the pool has proven to be difficult. For some segments of the market, the skills shortage is legit.

xiaoma 14y ago
>There are normal software developer jobs where it is nearly impossible to find anyone qualified even when one has no significant price sensitivity. Well, if you're looking for someone with a year's experience at a start up with decent JS/jQuery skills, some experience on iOS and ruby and hobby stuff on the side... Have a look at my profile. I'm a pretty bright guy with a track record of learning stuff that most people struggle with, but so far have had an unsuccessful job search in SF for 2 months due to pretty much everybody wanting an expert. Edit: If you're looking only for those who already possess "expert", "ninja" or "rockstar" skills, then please don't email me.

Tangaroa 14y ago

It could also be location-dependant. There's apparently a skills shortage in the South Bay and Peninsula, but there's a jobs shortage in the North Bay. Then there's the fact that recruitments for managers and lead engineers outnumber those for junior-level programmers and testers, and nobody is taking the effort to train junior-level employees up to the skill level that they are looking for. A company could also have obscene contract terms that highly skilled employees with good job prospects will turn away from. Things that I've seen or heard about include non-compete clauses that are broad enough to force you out of the industry for up to three years after leaving the company, NDAs broad enough to prevent you from blogging about your whole industry or even mentioning that you work for the company, surrendering all copyright to everything you have ever developed or would develop independantly of your work at the company (California law allows you to have personal projects regardless of contract terms so long as they're unrelated to your work), and pledging to never sue the company under any circumstances no matter what they do to you (objecting to that one cost me my last job). Word can get around about these things, and the most skilled employees with the most job freedom can afford not to bother applying to certain places.

michaelt 14y ago

How un-selective does an employer have to be before they can talk about skills shortages? I'm sure you've heard of Fizz Buzz - http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2007/02/why-cant-programmers-program.html http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2007/02/why-cant-programmer... - is that too difficult a problem?