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i realize this may come across as whataboutism, but i think it really is an important question to ask: please keep in mind, i absolutely am not challenging your
by toofy 2y ago
i realize this may come across as whataboutism, but i think it really is an important question to ask: please keep in mind, i absolutely am not challenging your concerns, but if this concerns you, are you under the impression places like twitter and meta/facebook aren’t pushing gross tiers of propaganda and malicious information?
we know with absolute certainty they have been/are actively being used for the same purposes—from both internal and external manipulations. i mean in addition to the mess from the past couple of years, does anyone else remember facebook getting caught intentionally running experiments on unknowing users? [0][1][2][3]
they were caught intentionally trying to manipulate humans into being sad. again, without the users knowledge (or consent) they were running experiments on people.
their owners are definitely manipulating humans, their algorithms are being manipulated by highly paid groups of people, and on and on.
if foreign ownership concerns you, twitter is not owned by someone born in the US, and it’s second largest shareholder are saudis. and the vc money people behind so many of these sites have repeatedly shown they have some very antisocial tendencies, and maybe this is hyperbolic, i can’t tell anymore, but im confident in saying an awful lot of them have no loyalty to any country/civilization and many of them would be perfectly happy to watch the world burn as long as they’re making money.
if manipulation concerns you (i’m still debating myself on the issue, but i’m leaning towards worry) i find it strange not to mention twitter and meta/facebook with just as much weight/concern. for the average american/european the manipulations coming from their platforms have the potential to be significantly more material. and they are rabidly against any kind of interference that would protect citizens from the very manipulations that seem to concern people.
[0] https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/30/technology/facebook-tinkers-with-users-emotions-in-news-feed-experiment-stirring-outcry.html https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/30/technology/facebook-tinke...
[1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/furor-erupts-over-facebook-experiment-on-users-1404085840 https://www.wsj.com/articles/furor-erupts-over-facebook-expe...
[2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/06/28/facebook-manipulated-689003-users-emotions-for-science/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/06/28/facebook...
[3] https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-28051930.amp https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-28051930.amp