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I noticed that those blocklist on Bluesky tends to have false positives too! I've seen an instance where an innocent user added to a blocklist that blocks Nazi

I noticed that those blocklist on Bluesky tends to have false positives too! I've seen an instance where an innocent user added to a blocklist that blocks Nazi ideology or something like that. Honestly if that happened to me, I'd quit Bluesky instantly

verdverm 2y ago
The comments on that post (I saw the same or similar on Reddit) point out that there are very aggressive lists and more discerning lists. Some lists filter out based on links in a profile or certain emojis or if you follow certain accounts. These are 3rd party lists and a user has to opt into them to leverage their blocking choices. If a list blocks 1M accounts but only has 100 followers, it's not such a big deal. When you subscribe to a well built list, you are given options for how like mute vs block, your choice, or label | warn | hide, per label, a subchoice within an opt in labeller. What ATProto gives us as users is choice and competition. Bad lists will not gain subscribers and will be marginalized by the market effect. High quality lists will be shared and gain network effect. We shouldn't expect or want a one-size fits all solution to moderation. Our social graphs in real life and online are not a giant blob where everyone has to listen to everyone. We naturally break down into subgraphs or communities. Online communities or groups should be able to exclude people for any reason they wish. They should be seen similar to a private group in real life. You shouldn't expect to be allowed into or to participate in a group if your going against the group's rules or customs in real life. Online should be no different.
Kosovid 2y ago
There are lots of lists like that. Like I stumbled across this one the other day titled "Pedophiles of Bluesky" at https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:zufzme6bw4kqvd7uwff3qfpc/lists/3lewg3m7htw2j https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:zufzme6bw4kqvd7uwff3qfpc/li... Now I had a good look and I'm pretty sure the people added to this list haven't posted anything to warrant this accusation. Yet if you go to their profiles on Clearsky or whatever it will show them in this pedophile list, like https://clearsky.app/messyjhesse.bsky.social/lists https://clearsky.app/messyjhesse.bsky.social/lists That's not right, and the worst thing is you can't see on the app if you've been wrongly labeled that way, you have to use a third-party website to find out.
- glowiefedposter 2y ago
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verdverm 2y ago

The comments on that post (I saw the same or similar on Reddit) point out that there are very aggressive lists and more discerning lists. Some lists filter out based on links in a profile or certain emojis or if you follow certain accounts. These are 3rd party lists and a user has to opt into them to leverage their blocking choices. If a list blocks 1M accounts but only has 100 followers, it's not such a big deal. When you subscribe to a well built list, you are given options for how like mute vs block, your choice, or label | warn | hide, per label, a subchoice within an opt in labeller. What ATProto gives us as users is choice and competition. Bad lists will not gain subscribers and will be marginalized by the market effect. High quality lists will be shared and gain network effect. We shouldn't expect or want a one-size fits all solution to moderation. Our social graphs in real life and online are not a giant blob where everyone has to listen to everyone. We naturally break down into subgraphs or communities. Online communities or groups should be able to exclude people for any reason they wish. They should be seen similar to a private group in real life. You shouldn't expect to be allowed into or to participate in a group if your going against the group's rules or customs in real life. Online should be no different.

Kosovid 2y ago

There are lots of lists like that. Like I stumbled across this one the other day titled "Pedophiles of Bluesky" at https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:zufzme6bw4kqvd7uwff3qfpc/lists/3lewg3m7htw2j https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:zufzme6bw4kqvd7uwff3qfpc/li... Now I had a good look and I'm pretty sure the people added to this list haven't posted anything to warrant this accusation. Yet if you go to their profiles on Clearsky or whatever it will show them in this pedophile list, like https://clearsky.app/messyjhesse.bsky.social/lists https://clearsky.app/messyjhesse.bsky.social/lists That's not right, and the worst thing is you can't see on the app if you've been wrongly labeled that way, you have to use a third-party website to find out.

glowiefedposter 2y ago
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