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I partly agree with Kennedy. Ozempic will not make America healthy again. You will have to look into lifestyle choices. This being said, if you want to go the

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criddell 2y ago
> Ozempic will not make America healthy again Will it help a significant net number of Americans be healthier? If so, then it should be made available to those people. > You will have to look into lifestyle choices That's not being questioned, is it? Who doesn't understand that exercise and eating well is better than not exercising and eating garbage all day?
- Beijinger 2y ago
  You were obviously not able to understand my argument. Ozempic treats a problems (overweight) and might prevent problems further down the road (diabetes, high blood pressure, heart problems etc.) with trade offs like higher risk for specific cancers. It does not treat the underlying cause ob obesity. One that might be highly processed food and Kennedy, whatever you think of him, stated this correctly. Where in my post do you see that I said that Ozempic should not be made available? Please work on your reading abilities.
  - mullingitover 2y ago
    > It does not treat the underlying cause obesity. Obesity is caused by compulsive excess calorie intake. That’s precisely what Ozempic treats. Kennedy is a grifter who profits from quack medicine. Ozempic, because of its effectiveness, threatens the supplements industry which is rife with quack cures for obesity. This is the reason he’s against it.
    - Beijinger 2y ago
      "Obesity is caused by compulsive excess calorie intake." OMG. Please don't try to lecture a STEM PhD in Science. Obesity is caused by many things. Genetics, epigenetics, psychology, bad food (highly processed, addictive taste), social interactions, gut microbiome, hormone balance disruptions (plastics?) possibly even viral infections. Kennedy may be many things. Maybe even an idiot. With the statement that "Ozempic will not make America healthy again" he is right. If you have a smoking epidemic, better lung cancer treatment is not the right answer. What again does not include that better lung cancer treatments should not be available.
      - mullingitover 2y ago
        > If you have a smoking epidemic, better lung cancer treatment is not the right answer. You’re correct, but Ozempic isn’t a lung cancer treatment, it’s a supremely successful smoking cessation aid. I don’t understand how you’re struggling with this metaphor as a Science STEM PhD in Science. Obesity is a physics problem: you can gain weight on the healthiest food imaginable, and you can lose weight on a diet of marshmallows. Ozempic attacks the lack of control over the calorie input, the only thing that ultimately matters in this equation.
        Beijinger 2y ago
        Look, I gave this as a metaphor. Better anti-lung cancer drugs (not Ozempic) are not the right answer to the smoking problem. Neither is Ozempic the right answer to the epidemic. I don't oppose Ozempic, neither would I better anti-lung cancer drugs, and both should be covered by insurance. But both "solutions" would not address the underlying problem? Is this so hard to understand? A 5th grader should understand this.
        mlyle 2y ago
        > Ozempic attacks the lack of control over the calorie input, the only thing that ultimately matters in this equation. But in fairness, there's a complex etiology behind the lack of control of the calorie input, and attacking causes a bit earlier in the chain could make even more sense, no? I'm not saying Ozempic is bad-- it's quite a good thing. But to the extent that it lowers our desire to really figure out these causes and deal with them, that's unfortunate.
op00to 2y ago
Ozempic is only effective with lifestyle changes. The medication makes those changes easier. You should understand the effects of medication before you spout falsehoods.

criddell 2y ago

> Ozempic will not make America healthy again Will it help a significant net number of Americans be healthier? If so, then it should be made available to those people. > You will have to look into lifestyle choices That's not being questioned, is it? Who doesn't understand that exercise and eating well is better than not exercising and eating garbage all day?

Beijinger 2y ago
You were obviously not able to understand my argument. Ozempic treats a problems (overweight) and might prevent problems further down the road (diabetes, high blood pressure, heart problems etc.) with trade offs like higher risk for specific cancers. It does not treat the underlying cause ob obesity. One that might be highly processed food and Kennedy, whatever you think of him, stated this correctly. Where in my post do you see that I said that Ozempic should not be made available? Please work on your reading abilities.
- mullingitover 2y ago
  > It does not treat the underlying cause obesity. Obesity is caused by compulsive excess calorie intake. That’s precisely what Ozempic treats. Kennedy is a grifter who profits from quack medicine. Ozempic, because of its effectiveness, threatens the supplements industry which is rife with quack cures for obesity. This is the reason he’s against it.
  - Beijinger 2y ago
    "Obesity is caused by compulsive excess calorie intake." OMG. Please don't try to lecture a STEM PhD in Science. Obesity is caused by many things. Genetics, epigenetics, psychology, bad food (highly processed, addictive taste), social interactions, gut microbiome, hormone balance disruptions (plastics?) possibly even viral infections. Kennedy may be many things. Maybe even an idiot. With the statement that "Ozempic will not make America healthy again" he is right. If you have a smoking epidemic, better lung cancer treatment is not the right answer. What again does not include that better lung cancer treatments should not be available.
    - mullingitover 2y ago
      > If you have a smoking epidemic, better lung cancer treatment is not the right answer. You’re correct, but Ozempic isn’t a lung cancer treatment, it’s a supremely successful smoking cessation aid. I don’t understand how you’re struggling with this metaphor as a Science STEM PhD in Science. Obesity is a physics problem: you can gain weight on the healthiest food imaginable, and you can lose weight on a diet of marshmallows. Ozempic attacks the lack of control over the calorie input, the only thing that ultimately matters in this equation.
      - Beijinger 2y ago
        Look, I gave this as a metaphor. Better anti-lung cancer drugs (not Ozempic) are not the right answer to the smoking problem. Neither is Ozempic the right answer to the epidemic. I don't oppose Ozempic, neither would I better anti-lung cancer drugs, and both should be covered by insurance. But both "solutions" would not address the underlying problem? Is this so hard to understand? A 5th grader should understand this.
      - mlyle 2y ago
        > Ozempic attacks the lack of control over the calorie input, the only thing that ultimately matters in this equation. But in fairness, there's a complex etiology behind the lack of control of the calorie input, and attacking causes a bit earlier in the chain could make even more sense, no? I'm not saying Ozempic is bad-- it's quite a good thing. But to the extent that it lowers our desire to really figure out these causes and deal with them, that's unfortunate.

op00to 2y ago

Ozempic is only effective with lifestyle changes. The medication makes those changes easier. You should understand the effects of medication before you spout falsehoods.