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>> If you do a lot of long drives >> the EV, when built well Home charging at 120v for an EV is only practical for the most minimal & predictable use. And I'l

by skeeter2020 2y ago

>> If you do a lot of long drives >> the EV, when built well Home charging at 120v for an EV is only practical for the most minimal & predictable use. And I'll add "as long as you don't want to sell it used..."

wat10000 2y ago
You’ll typically add 50 miles of range overnight, which is more than the average person drives in a day. That’s not minimal. Unpredictability is buffered by the large battery. You can drive 200 miles one day then slowly fill it back up. Fast chargers can be a backup for the occasional times it’s not enough. Why would there be an issue with selling it used when doing this?
- sobriquet9 2y ago
  Nobody is interested in used EVs, therefore resale values are very low.
  - wat10000 2y ago
    As written here, it’s presented as a specific disadvantage of charging from a 120V outlet, so that’s not it.
  - Toutouxc 2y ago
    I’ve been hearing that for years now, and for years I’ve had an eye on the used EV market, and I don’t really see that happening here in Europe.
    - wat10000 2y ago
      I think it was true, at least in the US, back then the Leaf was the most common EV. Their battery longevity was trash, they had poor range to start with, and tax credits pushed down the effective new price a lot.
  - isignal 2y ago
    Resale values are lower in US because they factor in the 7.5k USD tax credit and the state tax credit mostly, there is plenty of demand for used teslas for example.
    - ZeroGravitas 2y ago
      Similar in other countries but sometimes not as direct. Various regulations set targets which gives manufacturers incentives to hit sales targets. This leads to discounts or great lease deals just before certain dates if targets aren't met through standard prices.
  - bryanlarsen 2y ago
    The resale values are only low compared to the inflated COVID prices. A 3 year old Tesla 3 goes for about $25k. Which is painful if you paid $70k for the 3. However, the buyer is comparing to a new 3 which you can get for $35k after tax credit. The opposite will occur when Trump cancels the credit.
  - recursive 2y ago
    Resale values are low compared to new prices. Tell me, why does your logic not apply to new prices?
    - sobriquet9 2y ago
      For the same reasons people are interested in new iPhones, but not last year iPhones. And tax incentives.

wat10000 2y ago

You’ll typically add 50 miles of range overnight, which is more than the average person drives in a day. That’s not minimal. Unpredictability is buffered by the large battery. You can drive 200 miles one day then slowly fill it back up. Fast chargers can be a backup for the occasional times it’s not enough. Why would there be an issue with selling it used when doing this?

sobriquet9 2y ago
Nobody is interested in used EVs, therefore resale values are very low.
- wat10000 2y ago
  As written here, it’s presented as a specific disadvantage of charging from a 120V outlet, so that’s not it.
- Toutouxc 2y ago
  I’ve been hearing that for years now, and for years I’ve had an eye on the used EV market, and I don’t really see that happening here in Europe.
  - wat10000 2y ago
    I think it was true, at least in the US, back then the Leaf was the most common EV. Their battery longevity was trash, they had poor range to start with, and tax credits pushed down the effective new price a lot.
- isignal 2y ago
  Resale values are lower in US because they factor in the 7.5k USD tax credit and the state tax credit mostly, there is plenty of demand for used teslas for example.
  - ZeroGravitas 2y ago
    Similar in other countries but sometimes not as direct. Various regulations set targets which gives manufacturers incentives to hit sales targets. This leads to discounts or great lease deals just before certain dates if targets aren't met through standard prices.
- bryanlarsen 2y ago
  The resale values are only low compared to the inflated COVID prices. A 3 year old Tesla 3 goes for about $25k. Which is painful if you paid $70k for the 3. However, the buyer is comparing to a new 3 which you can get for $35k after tax credit. The opposite will occur when Trump cancels the credit.
- recursive 2y ago
  Resale values are low compared to new prices. Tell me, why does your logic not apply to new prices?
  - sobriquet9 2y ago
    For the same reasons people are interested in new iPhones, but not last year iPhones. And tax incentives.