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They absolutely do require confirmation in some cases - https://www.facebook.com/help/1090831264320592 https://www.facebook.com/help/1090831264320592 Of course

They absolutely do require confirmation in some cases - https://www.facebook.com/help/1090831264320592 https://www.facebook.com/help/1090831264320592 Of course that’s not foolproof and there are millions of bot accounts by facebooks own admission. But at the scale of billions of active users across the globe I’m not sure what approach could be 100%

llamaimperative 2y ago
> in some cases some != all therefore, it is not a real-name only network. I'm not asking for Facebook to become a confirmed real-name only network. I am not asking for anyone to be compelled to supply a confirmed real-name only network. I am saying: I wish that one existed and caught on with consumers.
- ipython 2y ago
  I totally get what you’re saying. I just don't know how you actually implement this at global scale. I dislike Facebook and have not used it in over a decade, but I do believe they at least used to try and enforce real name policies.
  - llamaimperative 2y ago
    1) I don't have interest in at global scale 2) I'm not discussing the practicality of it
    - ipython 2y ago
      You mentioned that you want this theoretical social network to “catch on” to consumers. Therefore - it kind of has to be practical to do so.
      - llamaimperative 2y ago
        Doing it practically in the US is relatively trivial. ID.me does exactly that already.
- bdangubic 2y ago
  this is the way… I find absolutely ridiculous every social media / free speech discussion if platform does not have proof of identity. while you and I may have right to free speech the bots etc do not. hence, there is no free speech without proof of identity imo
  - krapp 2y ago
    Of course there is free speech without proof of identity. The Supreme Court has ruled that the First Amendment protects anonymous speech. The right to speak anonymously is fundamental to the right to speak freely. You haven't proven the identity of "bdangubic" to us yet here you are exercising your right to free speech.
    - bdangubic 2y ago
      what if I was an AI bot programmed under the direction of President Xi? :)
      - krapp 2y ago
        What if you were? One has to assume most of the "people" with whom one interacts on the internet are bots or AIs now, anyway. That's just the nature of our post-truth reality, it doesn't matter. The point is that would have no bearing at all on whether or not you would have the right to free speech if you were a person who chose not to reveal your identity.
        bdangubic 2y ago
        One has to assume most of the "people" with whom one interacts on the internet are bots or AIs now, anyway. That's just the nature of our post-truth reality, it doesn't matter. but “people” do not have right to free speech, PEOPLE do. if as you said most interactions on the internet are bots they are not covered by the bill of rights :) identity-proofing would take care of that…
        2y ago

llamaimperative 2y ago

> in some cases some != all therefore, it is not a real-name only network. I'm not asking for Facebook to become a confirmed real-name only network. I am not asking for anyone to be compelled to supply a confirmed real-name only network. I am saying: I wish that one existed and caught on with consumers.

ipython 2y ago
I totally get what you’re saying. I just don't know how you actually implement this at global scale. I dislike Facebook and have not used it in over a decade, but I do believe they at least used to try and enforce real name policies.
- llamaimperative 2y ago
  1) I don't have interest in at global scale 2) I'm not discussing the practicality of it
  - ipython 2y ago
    You mentioned that you want this theoretical social network to “catch on” to consumers. Therefore - it kind of has to be practical to do so.
    - llamaimperative 2y ago
      Doing it practically in the US is relatively trivial. ID.me does exactly that already.
bdangubic 2y ago
this is the way… I find absolutely ridiculous every social media / free speech discussion if platform does not have proof of identity. while you and I may have right to free speech the bots etc do not. hence, there is no free speech without proof of identity imo
- krapp 2y ago
  Of course there is free speech without proof of identity. The Supreme Court has ruled that the First Amendment protects anonymous speech. The right to speak anonymously is fundamental to the right to speak freely. You haven't proven the identity of "bdangubic" to us yet here you are exercising your right to free speech.
  - bdangubic 2y ago
    what if I was an AI bot programmed under the direction of President Xi? :)
    - krapp 2y ago
      What if you were? One has to assume most of the "people" with whom one interacts on the internet are bots or AIs now, anyway. That's just the nature of our post-truth reality, it doesn't matter. The point is that would have no bearing at all on whether or not you would have the right to free speech if you were a person who chose not to reveal your identity.
      - bdangubic 2y ago
        One has to assume most of the "people" with whom one interacts on the internet are bots or AIs now, anyway. That's just the nature of our post-truth reality, it doesn't matter. but “people” do not have right to free speech, PEOPLE do. if as you said most interactions on the internet are bots they are not covered by the bill of rights :) identity-proofing would take care of that…
        2y ago