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> They hacked all of our major telco's and many of America's regulatory organizations including the treasury department. Please cite your sources. After decade
by bjourne 2y ago
> They hacked all of our major telco's and many of America's regulatory organizations including the treasury department.
Please cite your sources. After decades of watching American propaganda, we know all too well that it is trivial to make up shit from thin air and have a large segment of the population eat it up.
- ethbr1 2y agohttps://archive.ph/20241007181947/https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/china-cyberattack-internet-providers-260bd835 https://archive.ph/20241007181947/https://www.wsj.com/politi... https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/30/us/politics/china-hack-treasury.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/30/us/politics/china-hack-tr...
- jampekka 2y agoNYT would of course never back erroneous allegations by US officials on geopolitical matters like these.
- ethbr1 2y agoWhat satisfiable criteria would you like in a source?
- bjourne 2y agoRead the sources carefully. It all boils down to "US officials says so". It's different from the Podesta hack as forensic evidence were published linking Russian hackers to the attack.
- ethbr1 2y agoThe Podesta "hack" was a spear phishing link, no? With the emails then published by Wikileaks? What forensic evidence was published? Afaicr, it was attributed on the basis of methods. Gmail didn't publicly disclose any internal logging. And the email chain of custody is unreliable, so post-leak analysis has the can't-spot-a-perfect-forgery problem.
- bjourne 2y agoFancy Bear and their software was analyzed by FireEye and Secureworks. You can judge for yourself whether you find the evidence persuasive: https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/apt28-a-window-into-russias-cyber-espionage-operations https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/apt... https://www.secureworks.com/research/threat-group-4127-targets-hillary-clinton-presidential-campaign https://www.secureworks.com/research/threat-group-4127-targe... No such evidence has been published implicating the Chinese government.
- pdabbadabba 2y agoI'm tempted to say: what's the point if you've preemptively disregarded it as made up "American propaganda." But here you go anyway: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Typhoon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Typhoon
- bjourne 2y agoYes, what is the point if the cites you have are all based on speculation and vague allegations by US officials? Do you actually have credible evidence that a group affiliated with the Chinese government hacked American ISPs? If not, don't bother.
- stevenAthompson 2y agoCISA does. Much of it has been made public. Google it yourself, if you're actually interested. It's fascinating.
- pdabbadabba 2y ago> the cites you have are all based on speculation and vague allegations by US officials Totally untrue. It was also confirmed by officials from affected companies as well as Cybersecurity monitoring companies. There is quite a bit more detail and substantiation -- even in the Wikipedia article -- than you are acknowledging.
- Aunche 2y agoI'm not sure about "all our major telco's, but there is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Aurora https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Aurora > On January 12, 2010, Google revealed on its weblog that it had been the victim of a cyber attack. The company said the attack occurred in mid-December and originated from China. Google stated that more than 20 other companies had been attacked; other sources have since cited that more than 34 organizations were targeted.
- stevenAthompson 2y ago> I'm not sure... I am. Google Salt Typhoon.