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They'll be on RedNote within 2 weeks. Other's have said it; but TikTok was such a nice format for media. It emphasized what the creator can provide its users;
by spandrew 2y ago
They'll be on RedNote within 2 weeks.
Other's have said it; but TikTok was such a nice format for media. It emphasized what the creator can provide its users; what content was legit; entertaining, informative, etc.
Whereas Instagram and FB are more about personal "branding". You post the best version of yourself and it's rewarded with engagement. Where on TikTok the emphasis is on the content; even creators I follow and have seen dozens of videos on I couldn't tell you what their account name was.
On TikTok you put up or you were shut up.
The experience, in the end, was always on point for shortform content. Nothing else like it exists; and I don't think American tech can make it because they benefit too much from being ad networks. Maybe YouTube shorts.
- bearjaws 2y ago> what content was legit scrolls past 10 temu adds for clearly pirated retro game consoles, same comment 9 times "oh if you bought X last week I feel sorry its not 50% off!!!"
- toddmorey 2y agoI've heard the algorithms for YouTube shorts are much worse. Most people have said the best thing about TikTok is how well it learns the content you want to see.
- pxc 2y agoThis is true. Many people I know have uninstalled TikTok because it is too addictive, but no one ever does that with YouTube shorts.
- cyberlurker 2y agoWrong. YouTube shorts ruined the app for me. No way to disable them.
- theshrike79 2y agoNot even with parental controls. I'm kinda OK with my kids using Youtube, but I don't want them getting sucked into the infinite pool of shit that is Shorts. But I can't block it even with parental controls.
- drewnoakes 2y agoThere are browser extensions that block shorts. You can also block all algorithmic suggestions. I uninstalled the YouTube app ages ago and wish I'd done it sooner.
- freehorse 2y agoyeah enhancer for youtube was a lifesaver another reason i hate internet becoming predominantly app-mediated.
- eleveriven 2y agoI uninstalled the YouTube app too! Without the app, it’s easier to use YouTube more intentionally
- Andrex 2y agoHow feasible is YouTube Kids? Honest question.
- Aerbil313 2y agoI have set up YT Kids account for a young relative and manually approved many channels and hundreds of videos. This is one way you can block Shorts, with the added benefit it’s no longer an infinite feed.
- broodbucket 2y agoReVanced on Android lets you remove shorts from the app.
- pxc 2y ago
- theshrike79 2y agoShorts, Instagram Reels and whatever Facebook calls its copy of it. All of them are so bad it's not worth it.
- spandrew 2y agoYouTube essentially does what every big stupid US-based social media algorithm does: If you like cat videos, it serves you more and more cat videos. Because YT is longform content and the UI isn't a scrolling feed it's OK. I appreciate the different-ness than TikTok (which is why YouTube shorts is kind of annoying actually) TikTok's algorithm gives you more of what you like, too. But it also feeds you just... random stuff. Content adjacent to your hobbies. Or content that seems to be somewhat popular with people who frequent the niches you frequent. Feeding you a lot of uninteresting videos is low risk; user's still appreciate the variety even when the algo isn't on point. "My algo has gone off the deep end" is a common trope amongst TikTok users. Bc every now and then TikTok would pull in a lot of new/unrelated stuff for you to check out. And you just scroll by the stuff that isn't of interest. This is how its algo gets good; it's a UX heuristic as much as an algo one. It's an important distinction because it exposes users to new content, which is fun. YT doesn't do that as much, so YT's content recs can be dull as paint some times.
- oblio 2y ago> The experience, in the end, was always on point for shortform content. Nothing else like it exists; and I don't think American tech can make it because they benefit too much from being ad networks. How does TikTok make money?
- toddmorey 2y agoI feel like they were really headed the product promo / integrated shopping route.
- HDThoreaun 2y agoTikTok makes much less money than meta per time spent by consumers.
- tayo42 2y agoI never used tiktok. You don't follow accounts? You just open and scroll and hope eventually you get something? There's a nothing being done intentionally by the user to find content?
- Karrot_Kream 2y agoYou can follow accounts, and they offer a Following tab to keep track of accounts you really like, but the default consumption mode is to use it just like TV. When you're done with a video you scroll to the next. The app uses signals like how long you spent on a video, whether you liked it or not, whether you sent it to friends or not, etc to see how much you like a video. You can also reset your "algorithm" if you find yourself consuming content you don't like.
- HDThoreaun 2y agoMost people just scroll the home page yea. Of course you can follow accounts but that’s not the main use case. The algorithm really is mind bogglingly good
- spandrew 2y agoYou can follow accounts, but you don't need to follow accounts. The UX is dead simple: scroll and watch content of interest to you. Tiktok handles the rest
- IAmGraydon 2y ago>Nothing else like it exists Have you used Instagram Reels? It's nearly the exact same thing.
- flatline 2y agoThe format is the same but not the algorithm or what people are putting on it. I’m not a tok tok user but the few times I’ve been on it they felt surprisingly different. Meta reels are less substantial in content.
- theshrike79 2y agoThe problem is that Instagram content is so ... fake? manufactured? There is very little original creator content in there, it's all semi-professional "influencers" doing heavily scripted skits or just plain stolen stuff (vertical versions of TV shows, movies, stand-up sets etc)
- rzz3 2y agoIt’s really not, not even close to the same. The algorithm is really, really bad compared to TikTok. You can’t pause videos, can’t download them, can’t use copyrighted music, the comments are awful and full of bullying and hate and anger. It doesn’t have the powerful tools to actually edit your videos. It doesn’t have the community. Instagram reels just feels like a bad copy of TikTok. It’s also not timely; on TikTok you see things as they happen. News arrives instantly. Stitching enables two way conversations. Everything on Instagram is just recycled crap from two weeks ago on TikTok. I only use instagram to talk to people really; the actual content doesn’t do anything for me.
- IAmGraydon 2y ago>The algorithm is really, really bad compared to TikTok. Probably because you clearly don’t spend any time on it. It’s just as effective once it learns. >You can’t pause videos Yes you can. You tap and hold. >can’t download them Yes you can. Send (airplane) icon > download >can’t use copyrighted music The restrictions are the exact same as TikTok. Reels also has a massive library of licensed music. >the comments are awful and full of bullying and hate and anger It’s literally the exact same as TikTok - lots of low IQ people saying low IQ things. Sooo…yeah, you’re pulling everything you just said out of your ass. Rationalization is a hallmark of addiction.
- rhubarbtree 2y agoReels surely will be the winner. That’s surely why Zuckerberg has courted Trump.
- Andrex 2y agoPichai's courting just as hard from what I can tell. I guess a duopoly is better than a monopoly...
- navigate8310 2y agoBring back Vine, I guess
- Andrex 2y agoI'd rather have Grape. https://youtu.be/QtRHlCzL7xk https://youtu.be/QtRHlCzL7xk
- ohthehugemanate 2y agoRednote is a fascinating experiment in T and C blindness. Just how far can you go in the terms? Put them in Mandarin worldwide? Apparently OK. Include a commitment to uphold the "12 core socialist values" of the Chinese government? OK. Include rules against criticizing the Chinese government, Chinese socialism, or Chinese interests? I guess that's OK too. At what point will there be a reaction from industry? From government? I guess there's no reaction point for users. Would China or RedNote try to enforce any of this?
- binary132 2y agoFrom what I’ve heard RedNote is very strict and prompt in removing unapproved content. Not sure that’s what your last question was asking.
- lmm 2y agoI remember 20 years ago someone putting the right to your firstborn in a software license agreement. No-one reads them, no-one cares, and why would or should they? It's not like companies that ignore their own privacy policy get anything more than a slap on the wrist, so why bother reading it?
- spandrew 2y agoThey'll just ban you from the service.