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The US is trying to squeeze the Danes to get hold of Greenland.

by chvid 2y ago

chvid 2y ago
It is front page news in dk - leaders from major Danish companies have been called in by the government … novo is the biggest exporter to the us and the most obvious squeeze. Technically this is done by the Biden admin but obviously coordinated with the incoming Trump admin who has made their attention of using trade to squeeze Denmark in order to get full control of Greenland very clear.
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- xiphias2 2y ago
  Novo is just worth $300B, it's nothing compared to the many trillions of dollars Greenland is worth. But I guess politicians are much cheaper than that.
  - phonon 2y ago
    Worth to whom? Greenland has about 44,000 inhabitants over age 17. I would imagine a majority would be willing to sell their citizenship to the US for quite a bit less than a million dollars each....
    - ThrowawayTestr 2y ago
      The natural resources that haven't been exploited
      - 8note 2y ago
        also, taxes on the northwest passage
    - jajko 2y ago
      Now that would be a real tragedy, bunch of common folks largely clueless about finances suddenly becoming millionaires. If anything lottery winners have thought us is mostly just a destructive event.
  - sekai 2y ago
    > it's nothing compared to the many trillions of dollars Greenland is worth. All of these trillions are imaginary numbers buried in ice
- plandis 2y ago
  I find it fascinating that Denmark believes Trump isn’t simply lying like he always does? Why would the Biden administration coordinate with Trump in an attempt to control Greenland? That makes no sense.
renewiltord 2y ago
This particular thing was always in the works but we should ask the Greenlanders where they’d rather be and pay them if they choose otherwise than us. The land is too strategic and Denmark cannot hold it usefully.
- impossiblefork 2y ago
  There is no functional difference in likely effectiveness between the present EU, of which Denmark is a member state, or the present US holding Greenland against a Russian attack. The Russian attack would be smashed either way.
  - renewiltord 2y ago
    That seems unlikely. Peace in Europe exists because the United States threatens its absence with a fist by its heart. America had to save Europe from destroying itself once and now the US has pacified Europe by placing its troops and weapons there lest the nations turn on each other in uncivilized violence again. And then again, when they dragged their feet, the US had to blow up their gas pipelines pour encourager les autres. The continent is incapable of protecting its own shipping lanes without US support and NATO acts as a deterrent solely because the US is in it. Take it out and the Europeans will spend the majority of their time telling everyone how it's not a big deal that Ukraine will fall to Russia, and Poland, and so on.
    - impossiblefork 2y ago
      What you're writing has very little to do with reality. When we recently made agreements with the US to allow them to store some of their weapons here in case of a crisis we did this, the mutual concern was Russia. The weapons stored are presumably also of types useful for dealing with Russia. We Europeans have nuclear weapons as well, so there's no possibility of the US preventing any uncivilized violence-- we do in fact have very real autonomy. The US probably did blow up Nordstream; but this is very simply that it's easy to make the right choice when you're not paying for it, so this isn't some example of better American morality. Poland has a formal alliance with us and we would have to defend them by all means at our disposal. But, taking into account the sale of oil fund assets by Azerbaijan and the corresponding increase in military spending I assume more pipelines will soon have to be blown up, only this time it'll be the UK who adds its complaints to those of Germany and the other gas dependent countries. The Armenians might even have to do it themselves, rather than relying on help from others.
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refurb 2y ago
It's not really a "squeeze". The Danes agreed that Greenland can become independent if supported by a national referendum. Apparently there is a decent amount of interest in that idea. So the US can come in and say "hey, instead of independent, you could be in a union with the US". There is enough interest in that that it's a serious concern for the Danes.
- krapp 2y ago
  The Danes aren't concerned because there's enough interest, they're concerned because a violent, hegemonic imperialist superpower run by an unstable authoritarian regime has decided Greenland should be theirs, apparently just because, and historically speaking having something the US wants means your cities get liberated into smoking rubble.
  - timewizard 2y ago
    > they're concerned because a violent, hegemonic imperialist superpower To be fair we learned it from watching Dad (England). > unstable authoritarian regime How is it unstable? > apparently just because Territorial waters and exclusive economic zone claims grant amazing access to the arctic. > something the US wants It's really just the moneyed interests inside of it. China and Russia seem to have the same bent for the same reasons. It was recently unusual in Iraq since the federal corruption had risen to such a level, enabled by 9/11, that lackies for these interests somehow found themselves directly employed by government. I prefer nuance over hyperbole.
    - myko 2y ago
      > How is it unstable? I'll bite - the guy taking office soon recently attempted a coup and his party backs him no matter what action he takes despite his rampant criminality. There have been at least 2 assassination attempts on this individual recently (by folks who ostensibly supported him previously) and had one been successful who knows what his remaining supporters would have done in response. The USA is teetering.

The US is trying to squeeze the Danes to get hold of Greenland.

by chvid 2y ago

The US is trying to squeeze the Danes to get hold of Greenland.

It is front page news in dk - leaders from major Danish companies have been called in by the government … novo is the biggest exporter to the us and the most obvious squeeze. Technically this is done by the Biden admin but obviously coordinated with the incoming Trump admin who has made their attention of using trade to squeeze Denmark in order to get full control of Greenland very clear.

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xiphias2 2y ago
Novo is just worth $300B, it's nothing compared to the many trillions of dollars Greenland is worth. But I guess politicians are much cheaper than that.
- phonon 2y ago
  Worth to whom? Greenland has about 44,000 inhabitants over age 17. I would imagine a majority would be willing to sell their citizenship to the US for quite a bit less than a million dollars each....
  - ThrowawayTestr 2y ago
    The natural resources that haven't been exploited
    - 8note 2y ago
      also, taxes on the northwest passage
  - jajko 2y ago
    Now that would be a real tragedy, bunch of common folks largely clueless about finances suddenly becoming millionaires. If anything lottery winners have thought us is mostly just a destructive event.
- sekai 2y ago
  > it's nothing compared to the many trillions of dollars Greenland is worth. All of these trillions are imaginary numbers buried in ice
plandis 2y ago
I find it fascinating that Denmark believes Trump isn’t simply lying like he always does? Why would the Biden administration coordinate with Trump in an attempt to control Greenland? That makes no sense.

renewiltord 2y ago

This particular thing was always in the works but we should ask the Greenlanders where they’d rather be and pay them if they choose otherwise than us. The land is too strategic and Denmark cannot hold it usefully.

impossiblefork 2y ago
There is no functional difference in likely effectiveness between the present EU, of which Denmark is a member state, or the present US holding Greenland against a Russian attack. The Russian attack would be smashed either way.
- renewiltord 2y ago
  That seems unlikely. Peace in Europe exists because the United States threatens its absence with a fist by its heart. America had to save Europe from destroying itself once and now the US has pacified Europe by placing its troops and weapons there lest the nations turn on each other in uncivilized violence again. And then again, when they dragged their feet, the US had to blow up their gas pipelines pour encourager les autres. The continent is incapable of protecting its own shipping lanes without US support and NATO acts as a deterrent solely because the US is in it. Take it out and the Europeans will spend the majority of their time telling everyone how it's not a big deal that Ukraine will fall to Russia, and Poland, and so on.
  - impossiblefork 2y ago
    What you're writing has very little to do with reality. When we recently made agreements with the US to allow them to store some of their weapons here in case of a crisis we did this, the mutual concern was Russia. The weapons stored are presumably also of types useful for dealing with Russia. We Europeans have nuclear weapons as well, so there's no possibility of the US preventing any uncivilized violence-- we do in fact have very real autonomy. The US probably did blow up Nordstream; but this is very simply that it's easy to make the right choice when you're not paying for it, so this isn't some example of better American morality. Poland has a formal alliance with us and we would have to defend them by all means at our disposal. But, taking into account the sale of oil fund assets by Azerbaijan and the corresponding increase in military spending I assume more pipelines will soon have to be blown up, only this time it'll be the UK who adds its complaints to those of Germany and the other gas dependent countries. The Armenians might even have to do it themselves, rather than relying on help from others.

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refurb 2y ago

It's not really a "squeeze". The Danes agreed that Greenland can become independent if supported by a national referendum. Apparently there is a decent amount of interest in that idea. So the US can come in and say "hey, instead of independent, you could be in a union with the US". There is enough interest in that that it's a serious concern for the Danes.

krapp 2y ago
The Danes aren't concerned because there's enough interest, they're concerned because a violent, hegemonic imperialist superpower run by an unstable authoritarian regime has decided Greenland should be theirs, apparently just because, and historically speaking having something the US wants means your cities get liberated into smoking rubble.
- timewizard 2y ago
  > they're concerned because a violent, hegemonic imperialist superpower To be fair we learned it from watching Dad (England). > unstable authoritarian regime How is it unstable? > apparently just because Territorial waters and exclusive economic zone claims grant amazing access to the arctic. > something the US wants It's really just the moneyed interests inside of it. China and Russia seem to have the same bent for the same reasons. It was recently unusual in Iraq since the federal corruption had risen to such a level, enabled by 9/11, that lackies for these interests somehow found themselves directly employed by government. I prefer nuance over hyperbole.
  - myko 2y ago
    > How is it unstable? I'll bite - the guy taking office soon recently attempted a coup and his party backs him no matter what action he takes despite his rampant criminality. There have been at least 2 assassination attempts on this individual recently (by folks who ostensibly supported him previously) and had one been successful who knows what his remaining supporters would have done in response. The USA is teetering.