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The entire app is banned. They use a different one called Douyin.

slt2021 2y ago
I dont think tiktok app is banned because of algorithm, because bytedance created and maintains both Doyin and Tiktok. I think it is form of compartmentalizing Internet and social networks, to keep Chinese internet and social media separate from the US. the red book app, where tiktok refugees are flocking to right now, also want to introduce geofence and compartmentalize Chinese users and US users separately
- tmnvdb 2y ago
  Tiktok is banned completely in China because it doesn't not have the agressive filtering and CPP propaganda in place to operate in China. The CPP can not allow Chineze citizens to engage in an open exchange of ideas with eachother or with the citizens of other free nations, for obvious reasons.
  - skyyler 2y ago
    >because it doesn't not have the agressive filtering and CPP propaganda in place to operate in China Do you believe that all Chinese media is part of a propaganda machine? Do you believe the same of American or French media?
    - tmnvdb 2y ago
      Yes. No.
    - gkbrk 2y ago
      You cannot operate a TV channel, a radio station or a newspaper in China without running everything through CCP first for approval. You won't find a single news report critical of the CCP because of this. Every social media app or website in China is required to ask for your real name and ID number, and implement any censorship requested by the party. If you post something that rubs the government the wrong way, your identity is readily available. I don't believe this level of content control, censorship and user prosecution is there for all American media. And if it were, you are allowed to set up your own channel or social media app in America to be the exception.
      - skyyler 2y ago
        >Every social media app or website in China is required to ask for your real name and ID number, and implement any censorship requested by the party. If you post something that rubs the government the wrong way, your identity is readily available. I didn't know this. Do you have any reading on the subject you can recommend?
        gkbrk 2y ago
        I don't have anything handy, but a quick search turned these up. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_real-name_system_in_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_real-name_system_in_C... - https://www.technologyreview.com/2024/01/10/1086366/china-social-media-anonymity-end/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2024/01/10/1086366/china-so... - https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202310/31/WS6541068aa31090682a5ebbb9.html https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202310/31/WS6541068aa3109068...
    - deleted 2y ago
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    - grahamj 2y ago
      Yes. No. (Although that No is getting a bit blurry with US social media bending over for commander cheeto)
- throwawayq3423 2y ago
  You are making a distinction without a difference. China knows TikTok is harmful, which is why it allows it's export and bans domestic consumption. Think of it like a drug.
- eleveriven 2y ago
  It’s not just about controlling content but also about controlling how users interact across borders

slt2021 2y ago

I dont think tiktok app is banned because of algorithm, because bytedance created and maintains both Doyin and Tiktok. I think it is form of compartmentalizing Internet and social networks, to keep Chinese internet and social media separate from the US. the red book app, where tiktok refugees are flocking to right now, also want to introduce geofence and compartmentalize Chinese users and US users separately

tmnvdb 2y ago
Tiktok is banned completely in China because it doesn't not have the agressive filtering and CPP propaganda in place to operate in China. The CPP can not allow Chineze citizens to engage in an open exchange of ideas with eachother or with the citizens of other free nations, for obvious reasons.
- skyyler 2y ago
  >because it doesn't not have the agressive filtering and CPP propaganda in place to operate in China Do you believe that all Chinese media is part of a propaganda machine? Do you believe the same of American or French media?
  - tmnvdb 2y ago
    Yes. No.
  - gkbrk 2y ago
    You cannot operate a TV channel, a radio station or a newspaper in China without running everything through CCP first for approval. You won't find a single news report critical of the CCP because of this. Every social media app or website in China is required to ask for your real name and ID number, and implement any censorship requested by the party. If you post something that rubs the government the wrong way, your identity is readily available. I don't believe this level of content control, censorship and user prosecution is there for all American media. And if it were, you are allowed to set up your own channel or social media app in America to be the exception.
    - skyyler 2y ago
      >Every social media app or website in China is required to ask for your real name and ID number, and implement any censorship requested by the party. If you post something that rubs the government the wrong way, your identity is readily available. I didn't know this. Do you have any reading on the subject you can recommend?
      - gkbrk 2y ago
        I don't have anything handy, but a quick search turned these up. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_real-name_system_in_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_real-name_system_in_C... - https://www.technologyreview.com/2024/01/10/1086366/china-social-media-anonymity-end/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2024/01/10/1086366/china-so... - https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202310/31/WS6541068aa31090682a5ebbb9.html https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202310/31/WS6541068aa3109068...
  - deleted 2y ago
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  - grahamj 2y ago
    Yes. No. (Although that No is getting a bit blurry with US social media bending over for commander cheeto)
throwawayq3423 2y ago
You are making a distinction without a difference. China knows TikTok is harmful, which is why it allows it's export and bans domestic consumption. Think of it like a drug.
eleveriven 2y ago
It’s not just about controlling content but also about controlling how users interact across borders