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US-made missiles are blowing stuff up inside Russia because Russia invaded a treaty partner who gave up their nukes in exchange for a security alliance with the

by Zigurd 2y ago

US-made missiles are blowing stuff up inside Russia because Russia invaded a treaty partner who gave up their nukes in exchange for a security alliance with the US. And yet Russian apps are in our app stores. Nobody needs to imagine.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> yet Russian apps are in our app stores Major social media apps? Chinese apps are still in our app stores, just not TikTok (as of Sunday).
- Zigurd 2y ago
  It took me less than 15 seconds to find that VK, which is a major social media app in Russia, is in the Google Play store.
  - gkbrk 2y ago
    Compared to Tiktok with ~100 million American users, VK is essentially irrelevant and not even worth wasting court time about.
secondcoming 2y ago
The only Russian app I'm aware of is Telegram. What other Russian apps might people be unwittingly running?
- segasaturn 2y ago
  I would argue that Telegram is a much, much larger security threat to the average individual American than Tiktok. Except they comply with government search warrants and don't enable E2E encryption by default so they are useful to the American National Security Establishment and get to stay.
- joecool1029 2y ago
  No servers in Russia. Given Pavel's prior history it seems unlikely that he would cooperate with Russian government. Plenty of other criticism of telegram is warranted but it's probably not a tool of the Russian government. Edit: related https://hate.tg/ https://hate.tg/
orangecat 2y ago
And yet Russian apps are in our app stores. There are no Russian apps that collect extensive data on hundreds of millions of Americans. (And if I'm wrong about that, the US should absolutely force divestiture of those apps or ban them).
HideousKojima 2y ago
>a treaty partner who gave up their nukes in exchange for a security alliance with the US If it wasn't ratified by the senate then we didn't enter into a treaty, I really don't understand why this is so hard for people to understand.

by Zigurd 2y ago

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> yet Russian apps are in our app stores Major social media apps? Chinese apps are still in our app stores, just not TikTok (as of Sunday).

Zigurd 2y ago
It took me less than 15 seconds to find that VK, which is a major social media app in Russia, is in the Google Play store.
- gkbrk 2y ago
  Compared to Tiktok with ~100 million American users, VK is essentially irrelevant and not even worth wasting court time about.

secondcoming 2y ago

The only Russian app I'm aware of is Telegram. What other Russian apps might people be unwittingly running?

segasaturn 2y ago
I would argue that Telegram is a much, much larger security threat to the average individual American than Tiktok. Except they comply with government search warrants and don't enable E2E encryption by default so they are useful to the American National Security Establishment and get to stay.
joecool1029 2y ago
No servers in Russia. Given Pavel's prior history it seems unlikely that he would cooperate with Russian government. Plenty of other criticism of telegram is warranted but it's probably not a tool of the Russian government. Edit: related https://hate.tg/ https://hate.tg/

orangecat 2y ago

And yet Russian apps are in our app stores. There are no Russian apps that collect extensive data on hundreds of millions of Americans. (And if I'm wrong about that, the US should absolutely force divestiture of those apps or ban them).

HideousKojima 2y ago

>a treaty partner who gave up their nukes in exchange for a security alliance with the US If it wasn't ratified by the senate then we didn't enter into a treaty, I really don't understand why this is so hard for people to understand.