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Tesla also states unequivocally that they do not sell user data: https://www.tesla.com/support/privacy https://www.tesla.com/support/privacy

ripply 2y ago
Tesla states a lot of things, like that their second generation 2020 roadster is going to be ready next year (tm). I wouldn't put a lot of faith in anything they say, all it takes is Musk changing his mind down the line and then anything goes.
diggan 2y ago
Tesla state they don't sell "personal information" but they also explicitly say that "Tesla may also collect, use, and share information that does not, on its own, personally identify you" (so "anonymized" data) and also that "personal information" is subject to be processed to "fulfill contractual obligations with third parties, agents and affiliates", whatever that means. https://www.tesla.com/legal/privacy#how-we-may-use-your-information https://www.tesla.com/legal/privacy#how-we-may-use-your-info...
- SapporoChris 2y ago
  Anonymous data is fairly well established to be a myth. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/11/debunking-myth-anonymous-data https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/11/debunking-myth-anonymo...
finnthehuman 2y ago
Any unfaltering language a company uses is always one bizdev meeting away from "lol just update the contract of adhesion."
autoexec 2y ago
Employees are also sharing videos and photos of people in/around their cars with each other and I'm sure they end up in the hands of friends/family members as well. https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sensitive-images-recorded-by-customer-cars-2023-04-06/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sens...
- recursivecaveat 2y ago
  > Tesla states in its online “Customer Privacy Notice” that its “camera recordings remain anonymous and are not linked to you or your vehicle.” But seven former employees told Reuters the computer program they used at work could show the location of recordings – which potentially could reveal where a Tesla owner lived. You know they're not taking anything seriously when claiming with a straight face in the age of geoguesser that potentially hours of road footage, starting/ending with you literally driving into your garage, could ever be anonymous.

ripply 2y ago

Tesla states a lot of things, like that their second generation 2020 roadster is going to be ready next year (tm). I wouldn't put a lot of faith in anything they say, all it takes is Musk changing his mind down the line and then anything goes.

diggan 2y ago

Tesla state they don't sell "personal information" but they also explicitly say that "Tesla may also collect, use, and share information that does not, on its own, personally identify you" (so "anonymized" data) and also that "personal information" is subject to be processed to "fulfill contractual obligations with third parties, agents and affiliates", whatever that means. https://www.tesla.com/legal/privacy#how-we-may-use-your-information https://www.tesla.com/legal/privacy#how-we-may-use-your-info...

SapporoChris 2y ago
Anonymous data is fairly well established to be a myth. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/11/debunking-myth-anonymous-data https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/11/debunking-myth-anonymo...

finnthehuman 2y ago

Any unfaltering language a company uses is always one bizdev meeting away from "lol just update the contract of adhesion."

autoexec 2y ago

Employees are also sharing videos and photos of people in/around their cars with each other and I'm sure they end up in the hands of friends/family members as well. https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sensitive-images-recorded-by-customer-cars-2023-04-06/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sens...

recursivecaveat 2y ago
> Tesla states in its online “Customer Privacy Notice” that its “camera recordings remain anonymous and are not linked to you or your vehicle.” But seven former employees told Reuters the computer program they used at work could show the location of recordings – which potentially could reveal where a Tesla owner lived. You know they're not taking anything seriously when claiming with a straight face in the age of geoguesser that potentially hours of road footage, starting/ending with you literally driving into your garage, could ever be anonymous.