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Cursor requires you to use their specific IDE though, doesn't it? With Copilot I don't have to switch contexts as it lives in my Jetbrains IDE.

goosejuice 2y ago
It's just vscode. I greatly prefer vim but the difference between vim + ai tools and cursor is just a no brainer in terms of productivity. Cursor isn't without problems but it's leagues ahead of the competition in my opinion.
- verdverm 2y ago
  I've been tempted to try Cursor because of vocal fans like yourself. Then I went to their website and forums yesterday. I am no longer tempted.
  - rob137 2y ago
    Can you say more?
    - verdverm 2y ago
      pricing model, downtime, model support, pricing model, trying to take over the experience rather than assist within my experience. This last one is big, because Cursor wants to "reimagine" how developers work. The problem is the AIs are so far from being competent, they need to be kept on the sidelines and sub'd in occasionally, not be the quarterback. Oh, did I mention pricing model?
      - IanCal 2y ago
        It's a cost per month, supports the top models (tbh sonnet 3.5 is the key model) and is VS code + some more UI. > trying to take over the experience rather than assist within my experience I'm not sure I understand. It's got autocomplete, chat, asking it to change files, but it's vscode plus some stuff. What's it "taking over"?
      - goosejuice 2y ago
        It doesn't sound like you have a good understanding of cursor based on your comments. I'd suggest giving the trial a shot.
  - goosejuice 2y ago
    Because of the complaints? If so, yeah I get it. I'm there amongst them. It's kind of like Tesla FSD. There are often setbacks in releases and they definitely need to work on their communication with the community. That said, for the current price it's still worth any misgivings.
    - verdverm 2y ago
      The price is one of the issues I have with this space more generally. I do not want to pay $20/m for a capped experience I want to pay $10/m to support development, and pay for my AI usage on my own, per request, by choosing my own model and provider If I was going to shell out money, it would be for Copilot, not Cursor. I prefer my AI to be a side dish, not the main course or core experience
      - IanCal 2y ago
        You can use the free version and bring your own api keys if you want. You miss out on features that require cursors models.
  - monophonica 2y ago
    It is worth trying. It is just a fashion choice though with UI. Personally, I just prefer the chat interface directly with no Cursor UI. For me, the best way is to write my prompt in a txt file, away from anything to do with LLMs. The bottleneck is not the update of the files like Cursor is good at. The bottleneck is the clarity of my thoughts. I looked at your website. How to get past Barry Schwartz ideas is the main problem that we face in 2025. The Godel, Escher, Bach stuff to me is just nonsense. As a huge Bach fan boy it is from when Bach was massively overrated in cultural importance. Hierarchy Theory? How about O-information? Doesn't seem the O-information wiki entry exists, yet.

goosejuice 2y ago

It's just vscode. I greatly prefer vim but the difference between vim + ai tools and cursor is just a no brainer in terms of productivity. Cursor isn't without problems but it's leagues ahead of the competition in my opinion.

verdverm 2y ago
I've been tempted to try Cursor because of vocal fans like yourself. Then I went to their website and forums yesterday. I am no longer tempted.
- rob137 2y ago
  Can you say more?
  - verdverm 2y ago
    pricing model, downtime, model support, pricing model, trying to take over the experience rather than assist within my experience. This last one is big, because Cursor wants to "reimagine" how developers work. The problem is the AIs are so far from being competent, they need to be kept on the sidelines and sub'd in occasionally, not be the quarterback. Oh, did I mention pricing model?
    - IanCal 2y ago
      It's a cost per month, supports the top models (tbh sonnet 3.5 is the key model) and is VS code + some more UI. > trying to take over the experience rather than assist within my experience I'm not sure I understand. It's got autocomplete, chat, asking it to change files, but it's vscode plus some stuff. What's it "taking over"?
    - goosejuice 2y ago
      It doesn't sound like you have a good understanding of cursor based on your comments. I'd suggest giving the trial a shot.
- goosejuice 2y ago
  Because of the complaints? If so, yeah I get it. I'm there amongst them. It's kind of like Tesla FSD. There are often setbacks in releases and they definitely need to work on their communication with the community. That said, for the current price it's still worth any misgivings.
  - verdverm 2y ago
    The price is one of the issues I have with this space more generally. I do not want to pay $20/m for a capped experience I want to pay $10/m to support development, and pay for my AI usage on my own, per request, by choosing my own model and provider If I was going to shell out money, it would be for Copilot, not Cursor. I prefer my AI to be a side dish, not the main course or core experience
    - IanCal 2y ago
      You can use the free version and bring your own api keys if you want. You miss out on features that require cursors models.
- monophonica 2y ago
  It is worth trying. It is just a fashion choice though with UI. Personally, I just prefer the chat interface directly with no Cursor UI. For me, the best way is to write my prompt in a txt file, away from anything to do with LLMs. The bottleneck is not the update of the files like Cursor is good at. The bottleneck is the clarity of my thoughts. I looked at your website. How to get past Barry Schwartz ideas is the main problem that we face in 2025. The Godel, Escher, Bach stuff to me is just nonsense. As a huge Bach fan boy it is from when Bach was massively overrated in cultural importance. Hierarchy Theory? How about O-information? Doesn't seem the O-information wiki entry exists, yet.