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>you are a eugenicist. Is it possible to say “were a eugenicist”? Your info is about him decades before the equal rights quote from the GP. It’s possible he ch

by bumby 2y ago

>you are a eugenicist. Is it possible to say “were a eugenicist”? Your info is about him decades before the equal rights quote from the GP. It’s possible he changed his mind over the prevailing four decades (I hope)

pessimizer 2y ago
> It’s possible he changed his mind over the prevailing four decades (I hope) There's far less justification for inventing a conversion out of whole cloth.
- SoftTalker 2y ago
  Obama and Clinton changed their minds on gay marriage.
  - recursive 2y ago
    Do believe that's evidence that Fisher changed his mind on eugenics? Why do you bring that up?
    - SoftTalker 2y ago
      It's evidence that people can hold opinions that while perhaps mainstream at the time, in retrospect decide they are not well founded, and reconsider them. I have no idea about Fisher specifically. I hadn't really heard of him until this was posted. Eugenics was popular among a lot of academics in the early 20th century however.
      - recursive 2y ago
        Could be. Maybe it happened! The question here is about whether there is any shred of evidence that it did happen.
        throwaway112996 2y ago
        Or maybe ur weakass comment degrades the forum, dang
        recursive 2y ago
        Again, if you can provide some kind of comprehensible reasoning why that's actually the case, your insightful comment would be more persuasive.
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reverendsteveii 2y ago
It's possible that he changed his mind but realistically we can only entertain that possibility in the face of some pretty strong evidence given his earlier statements and actions. It's not technically impossible that he grew a horn out of the middle of his forehead either, but much like his views on genetics things we know for sure to be true make it reasonable to assume that this didn't happen unless someone can present a really compelling case that it did.
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by bumby 2y ago

pessimizer 2y ago

> It’s possible he changed his mind over the prevailing four decades (I hope) There's far less justification for inventing a conversion out of whole cloth.

SoftTalker 2y ago
Obama and Clinton changed their minds on gay marriage.
- recursive 2y ago
  Do believe that's evidence that Fisher changed his mind on eugenics? Why do you bring that up?
  - SoftTalker 2y ago
    It's evidence that people can hold opinions that while perhaps mainstream at the time, in retrospect decide they are not well founded, and reconsider them. I have no idea about Fisher specifically. I hadn't really heard of him until this was posted. Eugenics was popular among a lot of academics in the early 20th century however.
    - recursive 2y ago
      Could be. Maybe it happened! The question here is about whether there is any shred of evidence that it did happen.
      - throwaway112996 2y ago
        Or maybe ur weakass comment degrades the forum, dang
        recursive 2y ago
        Again, if you can provide some kind of comprehensible reasoning why that's actually the case, your insightful comment would be more persuasive.
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reverendsteveii 2y ago

It's possible that he changed his mind but realistically we can only entertain that possibility in the face of some pretty strong evidence given his earlier statements and actions. It's not technically impossible that he grew a horn out of the middle of his forehead either, but much like his views on genetics things we know for sure to be true make it reasonable to assume that this didn't happen unless someone can present a really compelling case that it did.

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