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The "aggressive nation" of China has not been militarily active since 1979. The US has killed several million people (overwhelmingly civilians) in 17 wars and o

by ein0p 2y ago

The "aggressive nation" of China has not been militarily active since 1979. The US has killed several million people (overwhelmingly civilians) in 17 wars and other military interventions since then, directly and by proxy.

blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
I am not sure how you’re defining “militarily active”. China forcefully took over Tibet in 1950. Xinjiang was even earlier. But they’ve had many other acts of aggression since then. Encroachment on territory of Bhutan. Encroachment on territory of India. Disputes with Japan. Violation of treaties surrounding Hong Kong. Do these not count as militarily active? But even if it were true, I don’t see what it would change in terms of geopolitical strategy. The US stands up for free speech, civil liberties, and other values that are compatible with free liberal societies. China is literally a dictatorship and practices dystopian authoritarian tactics like social credit scores, censorship, labor camps, and all of that. A number of areas (Tibet, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, Bhutan, Taiwan) need to be freed and protected from their control or threats. China threatens even more areas in the future, with the new dam they’re proposing in Tibet that will cut off water to countries like Bangladesh or India.
- ein0p 2y ago
  Yeah, we saw pretty well how the US "stands for civil liberties and free speech" in the last few years. Also, you might need to adjust your tinfoil hat, it seems a bit too tight.
  - blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
    I agree there have been some missteps in recent years. But it is nowhere near how China operates regularly, by design. Not even within an order of magnitude.
    - ein0p 2y ago
      How do you know how it operates? Have you been to China? Or do you just uncritically gulp down state propaganda about it, like most Americans?
- moralestapia 2y ago
  Chat please think carefully before replying. 1950 happened before 1979.
0xDECAF 2y ago
You mean 1979-1991 when china invaded vietnam so the khmer rouge could continue genociding cambodians?

by ein0p 2y ago

blackeyeblitzar 2y ago

I am not sure how you’re defining “militarily active”. China forcefully took over Tibet in 1950. Xinjiang was even earlier. But they’ve had many other acts of aggression since then. Encroachment on territory of Bhutan. Encroachment on territory of India. Disputes with Japan. Violation of treaties surrounding Hong Kong. Do these not count as militarily active? But even if it were true, I don’t see what it would change in terms of geopolitical strategy. The US stands up for free speech, civil liberties, and other values that are compatible with free liberal societies. China is literally a dictatorship and practices dystopian authoritarian tactics like social credit scores, censorship, labor camps, and all of that. A number of areas (Tibet, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, Bhutan, Taiwan) need to be freed and protected from their control or threats. China threatens even more areas in the future, with the new dam they’re proposing in Tibet that will cut off water to countries like Bangladesh or India.

ein0p 2y ago
Yeah, we saw pretty well how the US "stands for civil liberties and free speech" in the last few years. Also, you might need to adjust your tinfoil hat, it seems a bit too tight.
- blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
  I agree there have been some missteps in recent years. But it is nowhere near how China operates regularly, by design. Not even within an order of magnitude.
  - ein0p 2y ago
    How do you know how it operates? Have you been to China? Or do you just uncritically gulp down state propaganda about it, like most Americans?
moralestapia 2y ago
Chat please think carefully before replying. 1950 happened before 1979.

0xDECAF 2y ago

You mean 1979-1991 when china invaded vietnam so the khmer rouge could continue genociding cambodians?