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Another trope that never gets old, it seems. Many people have stopped going to McDonald's by the way. But not enough for McD to hurt. Then what? What does our

Another trope that never gets old, it seems. Many people have stopped going to McDonald's by the way. But not enough for McD to hurt. Then what? What does our agency change in the world in this situation? You are using cop-outs as well.

bruce511 2y ago
Cooking for yourself is a trope? You realise that's what most of the world does every day. If making your own meals is literally out of your reach then I feel really sad for you. That must truly suck to be so dependent on companies just to eat...
- skyyler 2y ago
  Do you grow 100% of your own food? It may be helpful for your understanding (and this conversation) to get off the high horse and realise that you're also dependent on companies "just to eat".
  - bruce511 2y ago
    I never said I wasn't dependent on companies. I very much am. For everything. But I have choices and, when I gave the opportunity, I make those choices meaningfully. For example, I don't much care for the McDonald's experience, so I go elsewhere. Indeed on occasion I find going 'nowhere' to be preferable if there's no alternative. I haven't been to MD in 30 years. I'm not trying to be on a high horse. I follow a path that works for me, and I don't complain about it. You choose the path that works best for you.
- pdimitar 2y ago
  Are you being obtuse on purpose or are you really desperate to "win" this debate? EXTREMELY OBVIOUSLY I meant this part of your comment: > As long as you keep signaling to MD that you'll tolerate more and more crap for lower prices, they happily oblige. That is the trope many use, yourself included. A lot of people signal their displeasure with various status quo. Still nothing changes. I wonder how does the one-dimensional quote above addresses the messy and complex real world out there.
  - bruce511 2y ago
    Sorry, it wasn't obvious to me. I misread your point. I'm not really trying to "win" anything. I'm telling you that you have agency. Whether that means anything to you, or if you do anything with it, I guess that's up to you. Personally I'm not looking for my agency to change anyone else or how any company behaves. I don't do it for them, I do it for me. I choose to support companies that align with my requirements. If a company makes me feel like crap I go elsewhere. I'm not out to change the world, just choose how I live in it.
    - pdimitar 2y ago
      Now I look like an a-hole! :D It's OK, of course, and yes I take a number of stances out there by supporting one and not supporting another, company. My point however was that nowadays that's mostly a feel-good measure. Not the unquestionable actual agency many make it out to be.

bruce511 2y ago

Cooking for yourself is a trope? You realise that's what most of the world does every day. If making your own meals is literally out of your reach then I feel really sad for you. That must truly suck to be so dependent on companies just to eat...

skyyler 2y ago
Do you grow 100% of your own food? It may be helpful for your understanding (and this conversation) to get off the high horse and realise that you're also dependent on companies "just to eat".
- bruce511 2y ago
  I never said I wasn't dependent on companies. I very much am. For everything. But I have choices and, when I gave the opportunity, I make those choices meaningfully. For example, I don't much care for the McDonald's experience, so I go elsewhere. Indeed on occasion I find going 'nowhere' to be preferable if there's no alternative. I haven't been to MD in 30 years. I'm not trying to be on a high horse. I follow a path that works for me, and I don't complain about it. You choose the path that works best for you.
pdimitar 2y ago
Are you being obtuse on purpose or are you really desperate to "win" this debate? EXTREMELY OBVIOUSLY I meant this part of your comment: > As long as you keep signaling to MD that you'll tolerate more and more crap for lower prices, they happily oblige. That is the trope many use, yourself included. A lot of people signal their displeasure with various status quo. Still nothing changes. I wonder how does the one-dimensional quote above addresses the messy and complex real world out there.
- bruce511 2y ago
  Sorry, it wasn't obvious to me. I misread your point. I'm not really trying to "win" anything. I'm telling you that you have agency. Whether that means anything to you, or if you do anything with it, I guess that's up to you. Personally I'm not looking for my agency to change anyone else or how any company behaves. I don't do it for them, I do it for me. I choose to support companies that align with my requirements. If a company makes me feel like crap I go elsewhere. I'm not out to change the world, just choose how I live in it.
  - pdimitar 2y ago
    Now I look like an a-hole! :D It's OK, of course, and yes I take a number of stances out there by supporting one and not supporting another, company. My point however was that nowadays that's mostly a feel-good measure. Not the unquestionable actual agency many make it out to be.