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So I can only guess the reason why they didn't mention how much more powerful NS2 is compared to NS1, is because it is not that much more powerful? I would gue

So I can only guess the reason why they didn't mention how much more powerful NS2 is compared to NS1, is because it is not that much more powerful? I would guess only 30 to 50% more powerful

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bhouston 2y ago
The leaks specs are [1]: - ARM 8 Arm Cortex-A78C - GPU: Nvidia T239 Ampere, 12 SM/1534 Cores - 12 GB of ram. Compared to Switch 1 [2]: - ARM 4 Cortex-A57 cores @ 1.02 GHz - GPU: NVIDIA Maxwell 256 cores - 4 GB of ram. It should like it should be a major boost in performance from those specs, like maybe 4x improvement overall? Of course there are more pixels on this screen, so the amount of GPU per pixel may stay roughly the same. [1] https://thegamepost.com/nintendo-switch-2-full-specs-appears-to-have-leaked/ https://thegamepost.com/nintendo-switch-2-full-specs-appears... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch
richrichardsson 2y ago
If you believe the leakers [1]: Full specs: CPU: Arm Cortex-A78C 8 cores Unknown L1/L2/L3 cache sizes GPU: Nvidia T239 Ampere 1 Graphics Processing Cluster (GPC) 12 Streaming Multiprocessors (SM) 1534 CUDA cores 6 Texture Processing Clusters (TPC) 48 Gen 3 Tensor cores 2 RTX ray-tracing cores RAM: 12 GB LPDDR5 Handheld Mode: CPU: 998.4 MHz GPU: 561 MHz (~1.72 TFLOPS) Memory Frequency: 4266 MHz Memory Bandwidth: 68.256 GB/s Docked Mode: CPU: 1100.8 MHz GPU: 1007.25 MHz (~3.09 TFLOPS) Memory Frequency: 6400 MHz Memory Bandwidth: 102.4 GB/s Switch 2 in comparison with the original Nintendo Switch: Category Nintendo Switch 2 Nintendo Switch CUDA Cores 1536 256 Bus Width 128-bit 64-bit Memory Size 12 GB 4 GB Memory Type LPDDR5X LPDDR4 SM Count 12 2 Bandwidth 120 GB/s 25.6GB/s Dimensions 206 x 115 x 14 173 x 102 x 13.9 (LWD mm) [1] https://thegamepost.com/nintendo-switch-2-full-specs-appears-to-have-leaked/ https://thegamepost.com/nintendo-switch-2-full-specs-appears...
- eloisant 2y ago
  How would that compare to other consoles, like the PS4/PS4 Pro?
  - Dansvidania 2y ago
    I would guess much weaker, but IMO the switch's point is not raw performance but rather innovative gameplay and style
  - jitl 2y ago
    pc vs cell phone
    - mirsadm 2y ago
      The iPhone is faster than most PCs
      - jitl 2y ago
        but quite different architectures
      - ac29 2y ago
        Maybe on short duration single threaded CPU benchmarks. But its not true if you are talking about sustained gaming performance compared to an equally priced new PC. Even for $800 (entry level iPhone) a PC will be a much better performer for gaming.
  - evujumenuk 2y ago
    GPU performance should be somewhere between PS4 and PS4 Pro. More memory is a good sign that Nintendo's machine will allow a larger software catalogue than that of the Xbox Series S, where 10 GB has been a severe impediment to porting.
  - ErneX 2y ago
    Just based on teraflops it sits between a PS4 and a PS4 Pro. But teraflops isn’t the whole picture though, it has other modern features like AI upscaling (DLSS) plus others. For a portable it’s pretty nice.
rekoil 2y ago
Have they mentioned anything? All they have done so far is show the hardware off and one new game, which for the record does look more detailed than its predecessor.
gbear605 2y ago
This was just a hype video, they didn’t mention anything other than “2025” and the date of the Nintendo Direct with more information. That said, I’m not expecting it to be a giant step up in performance.
dcow 2y ago
I’ve heard different leaks to the tune that it is actually significantly more powerful. Rationale being because Nintendo presumably finally needs to take 4k and higher frame rates seriously, and the hardware situation has improved enough for that to be possible under Nintendo’s philosophy (shit hardware with innovative and engaging gameplay). I mean their beloved launch title for the Switch had performance problems maintaining even 20fps at 720p. Pretty embarrassing.
The_Colonel 2y ago
No, it's because Nintendo prides itself to be about games, not about performance.
- jerojero 2y ago
  I think they've done something smart here by partnering with NVIDIA and given the success of the switch 1 they've probably built a good relationship. So, although you're right, NVIDIA might be giving them a good performance/efficiency bespoke chip.
xattt 2y ago
Missing 4K is notable in the current Switch.

So I can only guess the reason why they didn't mention how much more powerful NS2 is compared to NS1, is because it is not that much more powerful? I would guess only 30 to 50% more powerful

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bhouston 2y ago

The leaks specs are [1]: - ARM 8 Arm Cortex-A78C - GPU: Nvidia T239 Ampere, 12 SM/1534 Cores - 12 GB of ram. Compared to Switch 1 [2]: - ARM 4 Cortex-A57 cores @ 1.02 GHz - GPU: NVIDIA Maxwell 256 cores - 4 GB of ram. It should like it should be a major boost in performance from those specs, like maybe 4x improvement overall? Of course there are more pixels on this screen, so the amount of GPU per pixel may stay roughly the same. [1] https://thegamepost.com/nintendo-switch-2-full-specs-appears-to-have-leaked/ https://thegamepost.com/nintendo-switch-2-full-specs-appears... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch

richrichardsson 2y ago

If you believe the leakers [1]: Full specs: CPU: Arm Cortex-A78C 8 cores Unknown L1/L2/L3 cache sizes GPU: Nvidia T239 Ampere 1 Graphics Processing Cluster (GPC) 12 Streaming Multiprocessors (SM) 1534 CUDA cores 6 Texture Processing Clusters (TPC) 48 Gen 3 Tensor cores 2 RTX ray-tracing cores RAM: 12 GB LPDDR5 Handheld Mode: CPU: 998.4 MHz GPU: 561 MHz (~1.72 TFLOPS) Memory Frequency: 4266 MHz Memory Bandwidth: 68.256 GB/s Docked Mode: CPU: 1100.8 MHz GPU: 1007.25 MHz (~3.09 TFLOPS) Memory Frequency: 6400 MHz Memory Bandwidth: 102.4 GB/s Switch 2 in comparison with the original Nintendo Switch: Category Nintendo Switch 2 Nintendo Switch CUDA Cores 1536 256 Bus Width 128-bit 64-bit Memory Size 12 GB 4 GB Memory Type LPDDR5X LPDDR4 SM Count 12 2 Bandwidth 120 GB/s 25.6GB/s Dimensions 206 x 115 x 14 173 x 102 x 13.9 (LWD mm) [1] https://thegamepost.com/nintendo-switch-2-full-specs-appears-to-have-leaked/ https://thegamepost.com/nintendo-switch-2-full-specs-appears...

eloisant 2y ago
How would that compare to other consoles, like the PS4/PS4 Pro?
- Dansvidania 2y ago
  I would guess much weaker, but IMO the switch's point is not raw performance but rather innovative gameplay and style
- jitl 2y ago
  pc vs cell phone
  - mirsadm 2y ago
    The iPhone is faster than most PCs
    - jitl 2y ago
      but quite different architectures
    - ac29 2y ago
      Maybe on short duration single threaded CPU benchmarks. But its not true if you are talking about sustained gaming performance compared to an equally priced new PC. Even for $800 (entry level iPhone) a PC will be a much better performer for gaming.
- evujumenuk 2y ago
  GPU performance should be somewhere between PS4 and PS4 Pro. More memory is a good sign that Nintendo's machine will allow a larger software catalogue than that of the Xbox Series S, where 10 GB has been a severe impediment to porting.
- ErneX 2y ago
  Just based on teraflops it sits between a PS4 and a PS4 Pro. But teraflops isn’t the whole picture though, it has other modern features like AI upscaling (DLSS) plus others. For a portable it’s pretty nice.

rekoil 2y ago

Have they mentioned anything? All they have done so far is show the hardware off and one new game, which for the record does look more detailed than its predecessor.

gbear605 2y ago

This was just a hype video, they didn’t mention anything other than “2025” and the date of the Nintendo Direct with more information. That said, I’m not expecting it to be a giant step up in performance.

dcow 2y ago

I’ve heard different leaks to the tune that it is actually significantly more powerful. Rationale being because Nintendo presumably finally needs to take 4k and higher frame rates seriously, and the hardware situation has improved enough for that to be possible under Nintendo’s philosophy (shit hardware with innovative and engaging gameplay). I mean their beloved launch title for the Switch had performance problems maintaining even 20fps at 720p. Pretty embarrassing.

The_Colonel 2y ago

No, it's because Nintendo prides itself to be about games, not about performance.

jerojero 2y ago
I think they've done something smart here by partnering with NVIDIA and given the success of the switch 1 they've probably built a good relationship. So, although you're right, NVIDIA might be giving them a good performance/efficiency bespoke chip.

xattt 2y ago

Missing 4K is notable in the current Switch.