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Both controllers have optical sensors (visible in the trailer), confirming the rumors that they'll have mouse like functionality. Remains to be seen if games wi

by gyomu 2y ago

Both controllers have optical sensors (visible in the trailer), confirming the rumors that they'll have mouse like functionality. Remains to be seen if games will actually bother to implement it or if it'll remain a curiosity that only a handful of titles support.

darkwizard42 2y ago
I remember how fun it was to use that in Wii based Metroid Prime games. Hoping they return this feature in creative ways!
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delecti 2y ago
All it does it confirm that they have something there. The Wii used a sensor to detect where it was pointing, the Switch had an IR camera for a variety of weird gimmicks, the NES and SNES had light-detecting "guns". Hell, it could even be an IR blaster like the Wii U Gamepad had, and not a sensor at all. We just don't know yet.
- vel0city 2y ago
  The trailer shows the joycons sliding on that side with an additional attachment (see: 1:10). It seemed pretty obvious they were trying to hint at some kind of mouse-like optical tracking on a flat surface. https://youtu.be/itpcsQQvgAQ?t=70 https://youtu.be/itpcsQQvgAQ?t=70
  - delecti 2y ago
    That could well be what those are, but to me they just looked like the wrist-straps, like the original Switch has. https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/joy-con-strap-gray-106037/ https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/joy-con-strap-gra...
    - klausa 2y ago
      They're both.
basfo 2y ago
For action games doesn't look like a good option. But i think it will be used if it works well on any surface. Probably there will be a resurgence of point and click adventure games pushed by the new mouse functionality (or even republish some old sierra/lucas arts stuff with mouse support). Also may be useful for pc ports like simcity clones and strategy games (i could use that in civ). Some propietary nintendo stuff will use it like mario maker or wario ware, some zelda dungeon probably will have a gimmick around it. And also some small indy third party stuff, like i don't know, mini motorways, things like that, will be built arround it.
- makeitdouble 2y ago
  It could be nice for FPS. The current motion controls for the pro controller work well, but a mouse + single hand controller setting could work as well.
  - extraduder_ire 2y ago
    It would be great if games implemented it for aiming, but I am not sure that they will for sure. Given how few third party developers add a gyro-aiming option when they release a game on the console when most first party games have it in some way. It will make for an interesting dynamic for games with cross-play with other consoles where implemented though.
    - makeitdouble 2y ago
      We could hope that Nintendo exposes a mouse like interface when it's in mouse mode, which could help a lot for adoption for cross platform third-parties. Dealing with Switch specific gyro info, sometimes coming from two sources sometimes from one must have been a PITA, especially for games using a cross platform engine.
- Izkata 2y ago
  I'm hoping for an RTS comeback.
kuon 2y ago
RTS and 4x could be way better with the use of a mouse.
Levitz 2y ago
> confirming the rumors that they'll have mouse like functionality. The idea of controlling a game with two mice is suddenly interesting to me.
- ClassyJacket 2y ago
  The Steam Deck has two trackpads, tho obviously games don't support them specifically, they get mapped to existing controls

by gyomu 2y ago

darkwizard42 2y ago

I remember how fun it was to use that in Wii based Metroid Prime games. Hoping they return this feature in creative ways!

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delecti 2y ago

All it does it confirm that they have something there. The Wii used a sensor to detect where it was pointing, the Switch had an IR camera for a variety of weird gimmicks, the NES and SNES had light-detecting "guns". Hell, it could even be an IR blaster like the Wii U Gamepad had, and not a sensor at all. We just don't know yet.

vel0city 2y ago
The trailer shows the joycons sliding on that side with an additional attachment (see: 1:10). It seemed pretty obvious they were trying to hint at some kind of mouse-like optical tracking on a flat surface. https://youtu.be/itpcsQQvgAQ?t=70 https://youtu.be/itpcsQQvgAQ?t=70
- delecti 2y ago
  That could well be what those are, but to me they just looked like the wrist-straps, like the original Switch has. https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/joy-con-strap-gray-106037/ https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/joy-con-strap-gra...
  - klausa 2y ago
    They're both.

basfo 2y ago

For action games doesn't look like a good option. But i think it will be used if it works well on any surface. Probably there will be a resurgence of point and click adventure games pushed by the new mouse functionality (or even republish some old sierra/lucas arts stuff with mouse support). Also may be useful for pc ports like simcity clones and strategy games (i could use that in civ). Some propietary nintendo stuff will use it like mario maker or wario ware, some zelda dungeon probably will have a gimmick around it. And also some small indy third party stuff, like i don't know, mini motorways, things like that, will be built arround it.

makeitdouble 2y ago
It could be nice for FPS. The current motion controls for the pro controller work well, but a mouse + single hand controller setting could work as well.
- extraduder_ire 2y ago
  It would be great if games implemented it for aiming, but I am not sure that they will for sure. Given how few third party developers add a gyro-aiming option when they release a game on the console when most first party games have it in some way. It will make for an interesting dynamic for games with cross-play with other consoles where implemented though.
  - makeitdouble 2y ago
    We could hope that Nintendo exposes a mouse like interface when it's in mouse mode, which could help a lot for adoption for cross platform third-parties. Dealing with Switch specific gyro info, sometimes coming from two sources sometimes from one must have been a PITA, especially for games using a cross platform engine.
Izkata 2y ago
I'm hoping for an RTS comeback.

kuon 2y ago

RTS and 4x could be way better with the use of a mouse.

Levitz 2y ago

> confirming the rumors that they'll have mouse like functionality. The idea of controlling a game with two mice is suddenly interesting to me.

ClassyJacket 2y ago
The Steam Deck has two trackpads, tho obviously games don't support them specifically, they get mapped to existing controls