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> One of them had to miss an entire quarter because Israel just wouldn't allow him to leave Terrible. Even in the current ceasefire terms, there's an explicit
by ignoramous 2y ago
> One of them had to miss an entire quarter because Israel just wouldn't allow him to leave
Terrible.
Even in the current ceasefire terms, there's an explicit provision to have Israel agree to let the injured leave for treatment to neighbouring countries and be allowed to come back to the Strip.
Despite arguments to contrary, I can see why some claim it is an open-air prison.
- exe34 2y ago[flagged]
- js8 2y agoIf the prison is your homeland, it might be.
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- js8 2y agoYou do know that half of the Gaza population have been born there, right?
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- SauciestGNU 2y agoBecause sex is pleasurable and people have a drive to overcome adversity and lead the most fulfilling lives they can. Israel depriving the Gazan population of those opportunities is also a form of collective punishment and torture.
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- SauciestGNU 2y ago> can you tell me what happens when Palestinians have unfettered access to Israel? We literally don't know, because since the establishment of the state of Israel that has never been allowed to happen. > only if you're straight. if you're gay, the Palestinians will throw you off a building. Can you cite even one case of this actually happening?
- exe34 2y ago> We literally don't know, are you sure about that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_attacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_at...
- SauciestGNU 2y agoThese did not come at a time when Palestinians had unrestricted access to Israel, though. These happened while Israel was militarily occupying Gaza and the West Bank (yes, international institutions recognize Gaza has been occupied via blockade and control of resources, even though the IDF had "withdrawn").
- runarberg 2y ago> Can you tell me what happens when Palestinians have unfettered access to Israel? What would happen is that human rights would have been upheld, apartheid would have been dismantled, refugees would have been given access to their former homes, as is their right. I think I know what you are trying to insinuate here. And that insinuation is quite racist. A large part of what is now Israel was the home to many Palestinians before they were forcibly removed from there. Forcible relocation of civilian population is a crime against humanity, and those that were displaced, as well as their descendants, have the right to return to their former homes, whether that home is in Israel or Palestine. Denying that right is also a crime against humanity. What happens to the ethno-demographic prospects of the state doing the crime should not be a consideration.
- ignoramous 2y agoPalestinians go back not because the Israeli+Egyptian+Hamas siege has turned the Strip in to Switzerland, but because they are steadfast in their resistance to ethnic cleansing & cultural erasure: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumud https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumud Kind of similar to how the Polish Jews setup schools, orphanages, religious institutions that in the Warsaw Ghetto as a form of resistance.
- tradertef 2y agowho displaced them?
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- ignoramous 2y agoEarly Zionists cooked reality so much that the study of what actually went on created its own class of historians. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Historians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Historians Uncook your priors.
- exe34 2y ago21% of Israel's population is Arab - they have lived side by side with the Jews there for centuries. Why on earth would the Jews displace some of the Arabs and give full citizenship to the others if they just wanted the land? I hate your pseudo-intellectualism - "uncook your priors" indeed. You've roasted your priors and burnt your likelihood.
- ignoramous 2y agoMandatory Palestine was way more than 21% Arab. And Jews did live side by side & were culturally assimilated, but those that migrated to Palestine/South Syria (after 1890s) didn't & had ambitions of an exclusive state for themselves. > Why on earth would the Jews displace some of the Arabs and give full citizenship to the others No, those that were allowed to remain ("the good Arabs") post 48 were under military rule for 2 decades. Those that now remain occupied after 67 are under hybrid IDF+PA rule. > hate your pseudo-intellectualism Intellectualism? You give me too much credit. Hate the "New Historians" who are all Israeli & speaking their truth.
- exe34 2y agothe Arabs who live in Israel today enjoy the same rights as the Jews. the ones in the post 67 are under hybrid rule precisely because the Oct 7 attacks are the sort of things that happen when the people of Gaza and the West Bank are given freedom.
- prmoustache 2y agoEspecially as the Gaza strip is not their homeland but where they have been displaced from their colonized homeland.
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- ignoramous 2y agoIt is common for those seeking to engineer demographics to want to forcefully displace people. It is common for those who have dehumanised the other to take away their most basic rights, like freedom of movement. So yeah, super uncommon anywhere except in places like the tiny silver of land ruled by the most moral occupiers in the world.
- dotancohen 2y agoA UN delegate first referred to the Gaza strip as an open air prison in 1956, while still under Egyptian control. That aspect of Gaza was in place long before Israel had anything to do with the strip.