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Guys, what are we doing here? To me it's a very confusing website, that's also a stuttery mess(Chrome, Win10, Ryzen 4000 6 core). I would much prefer the web p

Guys, what are we doing here? To me it's a very confusing website, that's also a stuttery mess(Chrome, Win10, Ryzen 4000 6 core). I would much prefer the web page styles of the 90's with just hyperlinks and pictures instead of these fancy orbital sci-fi neural net styles so that some fron-end designers can flex their skills. It looks cool but the UX is bad. Is this the future of European tech? Online museums to show digital tourists our glorious long gone tech past similar to our IRL museums? The irony is not lost on me.

doikor 2y ago
They were being thrown away/deleted so some researches from the university decided to save them. I much prefer this to losing this information/history fully.
- Cumpiler69 2y ago
  >I much prefer this to losing this information/history fully. Edit: Fair enough but I Still maintain my option on the site's poor design.
  - doikor 2y ago
    These are not pulled from some random website. These are actual internal archives donated from Nokia (well Microsoft Mobile Oy these days) https://nokiadesignarchive.aalto.fi/about.html https://nokiadesignarchive.aalto.fi/about.html > The Nokia Design Archive is a graphic and interactive portal designed by researchers from Aalto University in Finland. It currently hosts over 700 entries, curated from thousands of items donated by Microsoft Mobile Oy and representing over 20 years of Nokia’s design history — both seen and unseen. You can freely explore the archive, learn about designers’ experiences working in Nokia and discover interesting topics surrounding design and mobile technologies. You can look at the uncurated collection at aalto university repo https://repo.aalto.fi/index.php?name=SO_b66a9391-dcf8-4399-8e87-611f84c3fc4c https://repo.aalto.fi/index.php?name=SO_b66a9391-dcf8-4399-8... (not sure if all of the materials digitized/online though)
    - CRConrad 2y ago
      > These are not pulled from some random website. Did anyone say they were? In this particular thread? > These are actual internal archives donated from Nokia Yes yes, that seems quite plausible. But why are you arguing that in response to a complaint about the site's sucky usability? It has nothing to do with the subject at hand.
  - troupo 2y ago
    How exactly would wayback machine allow you to have a collection of related items and their connection to each other? How do you go from e.g. Vision 99 (if you manage to find it in Wayback machine) to all related entires? https://nokiadesignarchive.aalto.fi/?node=C0027 https://nokiadesignarchive.aalto.fi/?node=C0027
    - beAbU 2y ago
      By using HyperLinks, embedded in your HyperText document written in HyperText Markup Language, that was sent to your terminal using the Hypertext Transfer Protocol. This is all 1960s era concepts. Literally any wiki style site will be a perfect fit to serve this content.
      - troupo 2y ago
        > By using HyperLinks, embedded in your HyperText document written in HyperText Markup Language Yup, linking millions of documents that you are required to sift through to combine the information you need > Literally any wiki style site will be a perfect fit to serve this content. And does wayback machine have this "any wiki"? Meanwhile the site in question is literally the wiki with hyperlinks you're talking about
        CRConrad 2y ago
        > Yup, linking millions of documents that you are required to sift through to combine the information you need You just click on the blue underlined text; it's called a "hyperlink". Revolutionary new concept, I know. It's not as if that confusing flash-like Captain Web Designer interface works without you clicking on stuff, now is it?
nabla9 2y ago
Here: https://repo.aalto.fi/index.php?name=SO_d5d11763-74a5-40a7-aaca-dd4b013203f7 https://repo.aalto.fi/index.php?name=SO_d5d11763-74a5-40a7-a... This page is just front end to Aalto repository.
- Cumpiler69 2y ago
  Thanks
emsixteen 2y ago
I feel genuinely stupid trying to use a website like this.
vincnetas 2y ago
Here you go the 90's style web page with folder structure : https://repo.aalto.fi/index.php?name=SO_b66a9391-dcf8-4399-8e87-611f84c3fc4c https://repo.aalto.fi/index.php?name=SO_b66a9391-dcf8-4399-8...

doikor 2y ago

They were being thrown away/deleted so some researches from the university decided to save them. I much prefer this to losing this information/history fully.

Cumpiler69 2y ago
>I much prefer this to losing this information/history fully. Edit: Fair enough but I Still maintain my option on the site's poor design.
- doikor 2y ago
  These are not pulled from some random website. These are actual internal archives donated from Nokia (well Microsoft Mobile Oy these days) https://nokiadesignarchive.aalto.fi/about.html https://nokiadesignarchive.aalto.fi/about.html > The Nokia Design Archive is a graphic and interactive portal designed by researchers from Aalto University in Finland. It currently hosts over 700 entries, curated from thousands of items donated by Microsoft Mobile Oy and representing over 20 years of Nokia’s design history — both seen and unseen. You can freely explore the archive, learn about designers’ experiences working in Nokia and discover interesting topics surrounding design and mobile technologies. You can look at the uncurated collection at aalto university repo https://repo.aalto.fi/index.php?name=SO_b66a9391-dcf8-4399-8e87-611f84c3fc4c https://repo.aalto.fi/index.php?name=SO_b66a9391-dcf8-4399-8... (not sure if all of the materials digitized/online though)
  - CRConrad 2y ago
    > These are not pulled from some random website. Did anyone say they were? In this particular thread? > These are actual internal archives donated from Nokia Yes yes, that seems quite plausible. But why are you arguing that in response to a complaint about the site's sucky usability? It has nothing to do with the subject at hand.
- troupo 2y ago
  How exactly would wayback machine allow you to have a collection of related items and their connection to each other? How do you go from e.g. Vision 99 (if you manage to find it in Wayback machine) to all related entires? https://nokiadesignarchive.aalto.fi/?node=C0027 https://nokiadesignarchive.aalto.fi/?node=C0027
  - beAbU 2y ago
    By using HyperLinks, embedded in your HyperText document written in HyperText Markup Language, that was sent to your terminal using the Hypertext Transfer Protocol. This is all 1960s era concepts. Literally any wiki style site will be a perfect fit to serve this content.
    - troupo 2y ago
      > By using HyperLinks, embedded in your HyperText document written in HyperText Markup Language Yup, linking millions of documents that you are required to sift through to combine the information you need > Literally any wiki style site will be a perfect fit to serve this content. And does wayback machine have this "any wiki"? Meanwhile the site in question is literally the wiki with hyperlinks you're talking about
      - CRConrad 2y ago
        > Yup, linking millions of documents that you are required to sift through to combine the information you need You just click on the blue underlined text; it's called a "hyperlink". Revolutionary new concept, I know. It's not as if that confusing flash-like Captain Web Designer interface works without you clicking on stuff, now is it?

nabla9 2y ago

Here: https://repo.aalto.fi/index.php?name=SO_d5d11763-74a5-40a7-aaca-dd4b013203f7 https://repo.aalto.fi/index.php?name=SO_d5d11763-74a5-40a7-a... This page is just front end to Aalto repository.

Cumpiler69 2y ago
Thanks

emsixteen 2y ago

I feel genuinely stupid trying to use a website like this.

vincnetas 2y ago

Here you go the 90's style web page with folder structure : https://repo.aalto.fi/index.php?name=SO_b66a9391-dcf8-4399-8e87-611f84c3fc4c https://repo.aalto.fi/index.php?name=SO_b66a9391-dcf8-4399-8...