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Jan 13 420 01 https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/en/#iso:std:iso-iec:42001:ed-1:v1:en https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/en/#iso:std:iso-iec:42001:ed-1:v1... ISO is just anot

by buryat 2y ago

Jan 13 420 01 https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/en/#iso:std:iso-iec:42001:ed-1:v1:en https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/en/#iso:std:iso-iec:42001:ed-1:v1... ISO is just another Swiss agency https://www.iso.org/standard/81230.html https://www.iso.org/standard/81230.html The standard itself was created by Europeans, Anthropic itself is European, so it's just europe trying to impose their own vision of AI on everyone else. That's another example of thinking from perspective of the old world. The New World is busy building instead of putting regulations around the progress. If you think like a citizen then it's better to avoid sharing your data with other AI companies and only share data with US.

Philpax 2y ago
Anthropic is American, lol
jcranmer 2y ago
> ISO is just another Swiss agency https://www.iso.org/standard/81230.html https://www.iso.org/standard/81230.html Uh, no it's not? ISO is the international standards body whose members are the national standards bodies of various countries. > The standard itself was created by Europeans, So I drilled into this spec a bit, it comes from JTC 1/SC 42 [1], and the chair of that subcommittee seems to be ANSI, which is the US standards body. I don't know much about this committee (I'm mostly limited in knowledge to JTC 1/SC 22, and even then, the relevant working groups for the languages I work on), but their main website seems to be at [2], not that I can parse which WG actually worked on the document or the main working body. But I don't see many indications that this is a Europeans-trying-to-beat-down-Americans standardization process. [1] https://www.iso.org/committee/6794475.html https://www.iso.org/committee/6794475.html [2] https://jtc1info.org/sd-2-history/jtc1-subcommittees/sc-42/ https://jtc1info.org/sd-2-history/jtc1-subcommittees/sc-42/
- buryat 2y ago
  > The International Organization for Standardization (ISO) is a non-governmental international organization with its headquarters in Geneva, Switzerland. Their employees are mostly Swiss, they subconsciously will want to protect their interest. https://globalcitieshub.org/en/the-international-organization-for-standardization-iso/ https://globalcitieshub.org/en/the-international-organizatio...
  - jcranmer 2y ago
    Having actually worked on standards produced by ISO, by the employees of ISO themselves do almost nothing on the standard. The standardization process is driven almost entirely by the members of the working group, with the main role that ISO itself plays is charging money for the final product and giving it an official ISO number. Trying to claim otherwise just highlights your complete ignorance of the standardization process.
tenuousemphasis 2y ago
Wow, I am impressed. You managed to not say a single true statement in your entire comment! Well done!
- buryat 2y ago
  I will definitely consider your counterarguments
  - pkaye 2y ago
    Anthropic is an US company.

by buryat 2y ago

Philpax 2y ago

Anthropic is American, lol

jcranmer 2y ago

> ISO is just another Swiss agency https://www.iso.org/standard/81230.html https://www.iso.org/standard/81230.html Uh, no it's not? ISO is the international standards body whose members are the national standards bodies of various countries. > The standard itself was created by Europeans, So I drilled into this spec a bit, it comes from JTC 1/SC 42 [1], and the chair of that subcommittee seems to be ANSI, which is the US standards body. I don't know much about this committee (I'm mostly limited in knowledge to JTC 1/SC 22, and even then, the relevant working groups for the languages I work on), but their main website seems to be at [2], not that I can parse which WG actually worked on the document or the main working body. But I don't see many indications that this is a Europeans-trying-to-beat-down-Americans standardization process. [1] https://www.iso.org/committee/6794475.html https://www.iso.org/committee/6794475.html [2] https://jtc1info.org/sd-2-history/jtc1-subcommittees/sc-42/ https://jtc1info.org/sd-2-history/jtc1-subcommittees/sc-42/

buryat 2y ago
> The International Organization for Standardization (ISO) is a non-governmental international organization with its headquarters in Geneva, Switzerland. Their employees are mostly Swiss, they subconsciously will want to protect their interest. https://globalcitieshub.org/en/the-international-organization-for-standardization-iso/ https://globalcitieshub.org/en/the-international-organizatio...
- jcranmer 2y ago
  Having actually worked on standards produced by ISO, by the employees of ISO themselves do almost nothing on the standard. The standardization process is driven almost entirely by the members of the working group, with the main role that ISO itself plays is charging money for the final product and giving it an official ISO number. Trying to claim otherwise just highlights your complete ignorance of the standardization process.

tenuousemphasis 2y ago

Wow, I am impressed. You managed to not say a single true statement in your entire comment! Well done!

buryat 2y ago
I will definitely consider your counterarguments
- pkaye 2y ago
  Anthropic is an US company.