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> We have examples like Elon who, through sheer force of will, defeats armies of people who don't care. For his many faults, you can't say the man doesn't care.

> We have examples like Elon who, through sheer force of will, defeats armies of people who don't care. For his many faults, you can't say the man doesn't care. I fully expected that bit. Can't say I would agree in any way though. If anything, a perfect example of a person with way too much agency and executive power and way too little restraint and rationality. The perfect anti social candidate to not care but to want to appear to due to his own personal insecurities that the world now has to suffer for.

BhavdeepSethi 2y ago
What do you not agree with? That he doesn't care? I would assume scaling Tesla, SpaceX, SolarCity are net positive for the world (as it stands). Can you achieve those ambitious things if the leader/ceo of the company doesn't care?
- brianbest101 2y ago
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- tdeck 2y ago
  I mean, he clearly didn't care that supervisors at his company were calling people the N-word on the job. He cares about benefiting himself and promoting his image, at least to a specific audience. Perhaps the bike path engineer was focused on caring intensely about something else and didn't allocate much caring for the bike path.
- notfed 2y ago
  You know what what happens when you assume...
  - jeffhuys 2y ago
    Good rebuttal, very nice debate.
arretevad 2y ago
Elon only cares about enriching himself.
- podgorniy 2y ago
  If that's true what would be explanation of his gaming/streaming? I believe his motivations are beyond getting rich. At some point in life money become means to goals, and goals are driven by real motivation.
  - grajaganDev 2y ago
    Do you mean paying others to game for you?
  - pclmulqdq 2y ago
    > I believe his motivations are beyond getting rich. At some point in life money become means to goals, and goals are driven by real motivation. They are now about acquiring power and respect from other people, after he became rich and everyone started making fun of him.
  - hypeatei 2y ago
    > If that's true what would be explanation of his gaming/streaming? It's a PR stunt. He pays someone to play for him and level up his account. Then, he plays for a bit and it's painfully obvious that he's inexperienced. He doesn't take criticism very well either. He recently removed a live streamers Twitter verification for pointing out his lack of skill. How's that for a "free speech" platform? Elon is extremely partisan, insecure, and rich. That's it.
- jeffhuys 2y ago
  I think he mostly cares about getting humanity off this planet, he's been saying that for a long, long time. Starting a space company to enrich yourself sounds like a very weird thing to do if you only care about money.
  - Vilian 2y ago

BhavdeepSethi 2y ago

What do you not agree with? That he doesn't care? I would assume scaling Tesla, SpaceX, SolarCity are net positive for the world (as it stands). Can you achieve those ambitious things if the leader/ceo of the company doesn't care?

brianbest101 2y ago
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tdeck 2y ago
I mean, he clearly didn't care that supervisors at his company were calling people the N-word on the job. He cares about benefiting himself and promoting his image, at least to a specific audience. Perhaps the bike path engineer was focused on caring intensely about something else and didn't allocate much caring for the bike path.
notfed 2y ago
You know what what happens when you assume...
- jeffhuys 2y ago
  Good rebuttal, very nice debate.

arretevad 2y ago

Elon only cares about enriching himself.

podgorniy 2y ago
If that's true what would be explanation of his gaming/streaming? I believe his motivations are beyond getting rich. At some point in life money become means to goals, and goals are driven by real motivation.
- grajaganDev 2y ago
  Do you mean paying others to game for you?
- pclmulqdq 2y ago
  > I believe his motivations are beyond getting rich. At some point in life money become means to goals, and goals are driven by real motivation. They are now about acquiring power and respect from other people, after he became rich and everyone started making fun of him.
- hypeatei 2y ago
  > If that's true what would be explanation of his gaming/streaming? It's a PR stunt. He pays someone to play for him and level up his account. Then, he plays for a bit and it's painfully obvious that he's inexperienced. He doesn't take criticism very well either. He recently removed a live streamers Twitter verification for pointing out his lack of skill. How's that for a "free speech" platform? Elon is extremely partisan, insecure, and rich. That's it.
jeffhuys 2y ago
I think he mostly cares about getting humanity off this planet, he's been saying that for a long, long time. Starting a space company to enrich yourself sounds like a very weird thing to do if you only care about money.
- Vilian 2y ago