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> I also found Trump's signalling in the whole issue odd. His base and his cabinet is full of the most hard-line pro-israel figures imaginable, but then he goes

by wk_end 2y ago

> I also found Trump's signalling in the whole issue odd. His base and his cabinet is full of the most hard-line pro-israel figures imaginable, but then he goes forward and quotes Jeffrey Sachs and ostensibly pressures Netanyahu into accepting the ceasefire. Trump just wanted a deal - he loves being the "deal guy". Frankly, I'm shocked he didn't push Bibi into waiting until after the inauguration. Guess he felt like it was close enough that he could still take credit for it.

dmix 2y ago
> Frankly, I'm shocked he didn't push Bibi into waiting until after the inauguration If you read between the lines it was clear Biden was also pushing hard to wrap it up before his term ends to add it to his legacy (that's how NYT spun it at least). But Trump also had his people negotiating there as well and enough of add a hard-line persuasive influence to force Bibi to show up in Doha last-minute on a weekend during Sabbath [1]. While Biden really didn't seem to have much influence there in the last yr. But ultimately they both get to take credit. The cease-fire ending will eventually need a conclusion during Trumps term as well. [1] https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-salty-envoy-may-forced-154940428.html?guccounter=1 https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-salty-envoy-may-forced-1549...
- nl 2y ago
  This is the most accurate summary in this thread (although note that the NYT is now also crediting the Trump team for the pressure on Bibi)
kevin_thibedeau 2y ago
> Guess he felt like it was close enough that he could still take credit for it. He's a private citizen. It isn't legal for him to engage in foreign diplomacy. Conveniently we have a feckless DoJ that won't hold people accountable.
jhanschoo 2y ago
Perhaps it speaks to Biden's administration and its interest in the conflict that Trump can achieve this now where Biden couldn't a couple months ago.

by wk_end 2y ago

dmix 2y ago

> Frankly, I'm shocked he didn't push Bibi into waiting until after the inauguration If you read between the lines it was clear Biden was also pushing hard to wrap it up before his term ends to add it to his legacy (that's how NYT spun it at least). But Trump also had his people negotiating there as well and enough of add a hard-line persuasive influence to force Bibi to show up in Doha last-minute on a weekend during Sabbath [1]. While Biden really didn't seem to have much influence there in the last yr. But ultimately they both get to take credit. The cease-fire ending will eventually need a conclusion during Trumps term as well. [1] https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-salty-envoy-may-forced-154940428.html?guccounter=1 https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-salty-envoy-may-forced-1549...

nl 2y ago
This is the most accurate summary in this thread (although note that the NYT is now also crediting the Trump team for the pressure on Bibi)

kevin_thibedeau 2y ago

> Guess he felt like it was close enough that he could still take credit for it. He's a private citizen. It isn't legal for him to engage in foreign diplomacy. Conveniently we have a feckless DoJ that won't hold people accountable.

jhanschoo 2y ago

Perhaps it speaks to Biden's administration and its interest in the conflict that Trump can achieve this now where Biden couldn't a couple months ago.