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Isis was never a legitimate independence movement. It was an expansionist terrorist group built on - quite literally - terror and anarchy. It worked for a while

by Cyph0n 2y ago

Isis was never a legitimate independence movement. It was an expansionist terrorist group built on - quite literally - terror and anarchy. It worked for a while because the conditions were suitable in Syria and Iraq. A true anti-colonial, independence movement does not die that easily. Across history, freedom & returning to one’s land are the greatest motivators of all.

trhway 2y ago
>Isis was never a legitimate independence movement. It was an expansionist terrorist group built on - quite literally - terror and anarchy. It worked for a while because the conditions were suitable in Syria and Iraq. Yep. HAMAS is the same. >A true anti-colonial, independence movement does not die that easily. Across history, freedom & returning to one’s land are the greatest motivators of all. Yes. That though has no relation to the subject at hands - the terrorist organization HAMAS. I'm sure that when Palestinians produce something looking like a reasonable government/independence movement instead of a terrorist organization their path to full sovereignty would move forward (like it was during Clinton times until they broke it with the second intifada).
- Cyph0n 2y ago
  Not replying to you specifically; just responding for more open minded readers. Rabin was assassinated for Oslo. The process stopped. The US spoke of a two state solution, while also playing along with settlement expansion. The West Bank is now apartheid swiss cheese. And Gaza is regularly bombed. A peaceful march in Gaza ended in bloodshed and intentional aiming at appendages by IOF snipers. When all avenues towards a lasting solution are blocked, and peaceful protest is suppressed with violence, what would you expect would happen exactly?
  - cnlevy 2y ago
    > A peaceful march in Gaza ended in bloodshed and intentional aiming at appendages by IOF snipers. Could you provide a source, please ? I'm genuinely interested to investigate it
    - Cyph0n 2y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%932019_Gaza_border_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%932019_Gaza_border_... And the nature of sniper activity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%932019_Gaza_border_protests?wprov=sfti1#Characterization_of_the_injuries_caused_by_Israeli_fire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%932019_Gaza_border_...

by Cyph0n 2y ago

trhway 2y ago

>Isis was never a legitimate independence movement. It was an expansionist terrorist group built on - quite literally - terror and anarchy. It worked for a while because the conditions were suitable in Syria and Iraq. Yep. HAMAS is the same. >A true anti-colonial, independence movement does not die that easily. Across history, freedom & returning to one’s land are the greatest motivators of all. Yes. That though has no relation to the subject at hands - the terrorist organization HAMAS. I'm sure that when Palestinians produce something looking like a reasonable government/independence movement instead of a terrorist organization their path to full sovereignty would move forward (like it was during Clinton times until they broke it with the second intifada).

Cyph0n 2y ago
Not replying to you specifically; just responding for more open minded readers. Rabin was assassinated for Oslo. The process stopped. The US spoke of a two state solution, while also playing along with settlement expansion. The West Bank is now apartheid swiss cheese. And Gaza is regularly bombed. A peaceful march in Gaza ended in bloodshed and intentional aiming at appendages by IOF snipers. When all avenues towards a lasting solution are blocked, and peaceful protest is suppressed with violence, what would you expect would happen exactly?
- cnlevy 2y ago
  > A peaceful march in Gaza ended in bloodshed and intentional aiming at appendages by IOF snipers. Could you provide a source, please ? I'm genuinely interested to investigate it
  - Cyph0n 2y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%932019_Gaza_border_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%932019_Gaza_border_... And the nature of sniper activity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%932019_Gaza_border_protests?wprov=sfti1#Characterization_of_the_injuries_caused_by_Israeli_fire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%932019_Gaza_border_...