> if we look back at the history of Java, it offers a few "real" improvement over C++ such as garbage collection Perhaps the problem is that it's hard to expla

> if we look back at the history of Java, it offers a few "real" improvement over C++ such as garbage collection Perhaps the problem is that it's hard to explain referential transparency, or that the problems caused by the lack of referential transparency are less obvious than those caused by the lack of GC. I mean, I've never heard of someone reading through "Out of the Tarpit" and then saying, "why bother with something like Clojure?"