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According to...? Every source I look at shows 10 ahead of 11 still. October 2024: "At the end of September 2024, Windows 10 had a 62.79 percent market share a

According to...? Every source I look at shows 10 ahead of 11 still. October 2024: "At the end of September 2024, Windows 10 had a 62.79 percent market share and Windows 11 accounted for 33.37 percent." https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/01/windows_11_market_share/ https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/01/windows_11_market_sha... November 2024: "Windows 11 market share grows, but Windows 10 still twice as popular" https://www.pcworld.com/article/2508289/windows-11-market-share-grows-but-windows-10-still-twice-as-popular.html https://www.pcworld.com/article/2508289/windows-11-market-sh... November 2024: "Windows 11 reaches 35% market share, but Windows 10 still leads by a wide margin" https://www.techspot.com/news/105408-windows-11-market-share-reaches-355-adoption-accelerates.html https://www.techspot.com/news/105408-windows-11-market-share... December 2024: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-version-market-share/windows/desktop/worldwide/ https://gs.statcounter.com/os-version-market-share/windows/d... Etc...

paxys 2y ago
None of these link to a real source, and don't show how they collected the data. Steam's statistics (https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/ https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/), for example, are pulled straight from their app, and are updated every month. According to that Win 11 is at 55% vs Win 10's 42%.
- ziddoap 2y ago
  >None of these link to a real source What? The Register, PC World, and Tech Spot aren't "real sources"? >Steam's statistics Show the percentage of market share for people who game. Not total market share. Habits of gamers are very different than corporate. Gamers are a relatively small percentage of all Windows installs. There are millions and millions of machines in corporate, institutional, and government sectors that run Windows but don't run Steam.
  - paxys 2y ago
    They are blogs. If you read the articles you will see that they all point to the same statcounter link as their source. And the statcounter page gives zero info on what source they used.
    - ziddoap 2y ago
      So, do we agree that Steam is not representative of worldwide installs, and the data is heavily biased? >And the statcounter page gives zero info on what source they used. That is answered in the very first question of the FAQ which is linked at the top of every page: https://gs.statcounter.com/faq#methodology https://gs.statcounter.com/faq#methodology >In other words we calculate our Global Stats on the basis of more than 5 billion page views per month, by people from all over the world onto our 1.5 million+ member sites.
      - paxys 2y ago
        Not sure why visitors to a bunch of sites that have installed the "statcounter" tracker would be considered more representative than everyone who has installed steam.
        ziddoap 2y ago
        Because visitors to those sites include corporate and government users -- the majority of windows installations. Corporate and government computers don't have Steam installed. Those website stats also include home users, people with Steam, etc. It's a way bigger sample across all sectors, including the sector that Steam measures. However, Steam stats only measure windows installations of people who play Steam games (i.e. not corporate and certainly not government computers, and probably missing a large chunk of home installs). That is a much less representative sample of windows installations.

paxys 2y ago

None of these link to a real source, and don't show how they collected the data. Steam's statistics (https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/ https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/), for example, are pulled straight from their app, and are updated every month. According to that Win 11 is at 55% vs Win 10's 42%.

ziddoap 2y ago
>None of these link to a real source What? The Register, PC World, and Tech Spot aren't "real sources"? >Steam's statistics Show the percentage of market share for people who game. Not total market share. Habits of gamers are very different than corporate. Gamers are a relatively small percentage of all Windows installs. There are millions and millions of machines in corporate, institutional, and government sectors that run Windows but don't run Steam.
- paxys 2y ago
  They are blogs. If you read the articles you will see that they all point to the same statcounter link as their source. And the statcounter page gives zero info on what source they used.
  - ziddoap 2y ago
    So, do we agree that Steam is not representative of worldwide installs, and the data is heavily biased? >And the statcounter page gives zero info on what source they used. That is answered in the very first question of the FAQ which is linked at the top of every page: https://gs.statcounter.com/faq#methodology https://gs.statcounter.com/faq#methodology >In other words we calculate our Global Stats on the basis of more than 5 billion page views per month, by people from all over the world onto our 1.5 million+ member sites.
    - paxys 2y ago
      Not sure why visitors to a bunch of sites that have installed the "statcounter" tracker would be considered more representative than everyone who has installed steam.
      - ziddoap 2y ago
        Because visitors to those sites include corporate and government users -- the majority of windows installations. Corporate and government computers don't have Steam installed. Those website stats also include home users, people with Steam, etc. It's a way bigger sample across all sectors, including the sector that Steam measures. However, Steam stats only measure windows installations of people who play Steam games (i.e. not corporate and certainly not government computers, and probably missing a large chunk of home installs). That is a much less representative sample of windows installations.