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Do you have a counter example, or is this just your assumption?

by creeble 2y ago

pc86 2y ago
There are several counter examples in the comments on this page.
- nickthegreek 2y ago
  none of which seem to have given their bandwidth figures.
  - michaelt 2y ago
    Their usage was finite. So if cloudflare’s offer is really unlimited and free, they haven’t exceeded it.
    - BenjiWiebe 2y ago
      "everyone knows" that unlimited basically anything has limits. I'd be shocked if CF actually allowed you to use a couple hundred PB/month for free. And that's still finite!!
      - michaelt 2y ago
        > "everyone knows" that unlimited basically anything has limits. Right. But the answer to the question posed in the title - "Why is Cloudflare Pages' bandwidth unlimited?" - is that the bandwidth is not, in fact, unlimited. At the start of this thread, i_have_an_idea said "The reason it's free and with unlimited bandwidth is that it's not" I think they, you, and I all agree on that. What I don't understand is the other people in this thread, who seem to take cloudflare's marketing puffery at face value.
        ignoramous 2y ago
        > What I don't understand is the other people in this thread OP said, "Unless you stay very small ... you'll realize the service is neither unlimited nor free" ... is what I commented on.
        michaelt 2y ago
        Yeah, to be fair the 60TB/month of outbound traffic you mention would cost ~$4800/month if you were doing it via AWS cloudfront. Cloudflare's free tier is pretty generous if they're providing that for $0.
goodpoint 2y ago
Yes: cloudflare is not a charity.
i_have_an_idea 2y ago
Actually, I have a really good counter example but I'm unwilling to share it publicly, as I don't want to dox myself. But the gist of it is that CF sales are really good at identifying users that are both locked into their offerings and big enough to be able to sign an expensive contract. CF do have an excellent offering and workers, in particular, are amazing for many things. Once the above conditions hit though, you will invariably get a call from the sales team. There is no free lunch.
- internetter 2y ago
  "CF sales are really good at identifying users that are both locked into their offerings" as I said in another comment, if you allow yourself to become deeply intertwined with a 3rd party service provider that's on you

Do you have a counter example, or is this just your assumption?

pc86 2y ago

There are several counter examples in the comments on this page.

nickthegreek 2y ago
none of which seem to have given their bandwidth figures.
- michaelt 2y ago
  Their usage was finite. So if cloudflare’s offer is really unlimited and free, they haven’t exceeded it.
  - BenjiWiebe 2y ago
    "everyone knows" that unlimited basically anything has limits. I'd be shocked if CF actually allowed you to use a couple hundred PB/month for free. And that's still finite!!
    - michaelt 2y ago
      > "everyone knows" that unlimited basically anything has limits. Right. But the answer to the question posed in the title - "Why is Cloudflare Pages' bandwidth unlimited?" - is that the bandwidth is not, in fact, unlimited. At the start of this thread, i_have_an_idea said "The reason it's free and with unlimited bandwidth is that it's not" I think they, you, and I all agree on that. What I don't understand is the other people in this thread, who seem to take cloudflare's marketing puffery at face value.
      - ignoramous 2y ago
        > What I don't understand is the other people in this thread OP said, "Unless you stay very small ... you'll realize the service is neither unlimited nor free" ... is what I commented on.
        michaelt 2y ago
        Yeah, to be fair the 60TB/month of outbound traffic you mention would cost ~$4800/month if you were doing it via AWS cloudfront. Cloudflare's free tier is pretty generous if they're providing that for $0.

goodpoint 2y ago

Yes: cloudflare is not a charity.

i_have_an_idea 2y ago

Actually, I have a really good counter example but I'm unwilling to share it publicly, as I don't want to dox myself. But the gist of it is that CF sales are really good at identifying users that are both locked into their offerings and big enough to be able to sign an expensive contract. CF do have an excellent offering and workers, in particular, are amazing for many things. Once the above conditions hit though, you will invariably get a call from the sales team. There is no free lunch.

internetter 2y ago
"CF sales are really good at identifying users that are both locked into their offerings" as I said in another comment, if you allow yourself to become deeply intertwined with a 3rd party service provider that's on you